Bill Gates embraced in Vietnam
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nino_savatte
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mears said:
Idiot.
sleaterkinney
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So, if you had to do business with NK you would?.mears said:
Barking_Mad
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mears said:
TranslationBot:
"We can make lots of money from China and because I love money so much it doesnt matter than the Chinese Government are a set of bastards."
Even his self confessed hatred of Communism and the one party system (as opposed to the USA's near identical two party system) vanish in the wind when there's a swift dollar to be made. Mears doesnt care about people he cares about money and how much he can make. What a sad, sad sad individual. It wouldnt be so bad if he were open and honest about what makes him tick, but instead he play this sorry charade where he pretends to have values and standards, but flash a dime in front of his eyes and he'd sell his Granny down the river if he thought it was worth his while.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
you whaaaat? china's record on human rights is, if anything, worse, and it applies over a much bigger scale. why don't you just be honest here; china is too valuable to the US as a sweatsdhop, dumping ground and future market to jettison over a mere fripperie such as freedom from persecution/mears said:
because that is EXACTLY what you mean.
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Ho Chi Mindows
Well I suppose it had to happen
One of Maos great dictums was to "Beware the sugared cannonballs of capitalism", still Unkle Ho was never really that keen on all that commie crap, I mean he asked FDR for help first, right? But the anti-colonialst FDR wouldn't cos he didn't want to upset France, you know, those "cheese eating surrender monkeys".
Reckon Cutty Ranks had it right
"Dont take it persnal, send for the new gun", all is fair in a wild west stylee where the USA disguised as John Wayne pursue the right, truth, Freedom, etc with a big gun and ever bigger corporations strapped to his hip.
Doesn't make me want to puke, just weep that any grown man can actually believe all that crap, sad, so very sad
Well I suppose it had to happen
One of Maos great dictums was to "Beware the sugared cannonballs of capitalism", still Unkle Ho was never really that keen on all that commie crap, I mean he asked FDR for help first, right? But the anti-colonialst FDR wouldn't cos he didn't want to upset France, you know, those "cheese eating surrender monkeys".
Reckon Cutty Ranks had it right
"Dont take it persnal, send for the new gun", all is fair in a wild west stylee where the USA disguised as John Wayne pursue the right, truth, Freedom, etc with a big gun and ever bigger corporations strapped to his hip.
Doesn't make me want to puke, just weep that any grown man can actually believe all that crap, sad, so very sad
thing about Ho was that he was left nationalist not a Soviet. its no wonder VN likes pepsi and bill gates why wouldnt they, like anyone else. they just didnt want the colonials and their puppets running their country. america should be thankful that the vietnamese are such a gentle people and have forgiven their enemies, not that they ever hated the american epople just the sodiers that slaughtered and raped their way acorss the country (and laos and cambodia). i dont think the majority of americans can understand that or even come close to the levels of compassion and tolerance the vietnamese show towards them - and others like the french. in my experience many americans are savage, callous barbarians compared to the vietnamese. sorry to say that as there are of course plenty of americans who are not...
but i also have to say across the middle east/nth africa there is the same thing. bods love Nike and Oprah and Homer and Kobe and hate Bush and his thugs and killers, you can do both.
but i also have to say across the middle east/nth africa there is the same thing. bods love Nike and Oprah and Homer and Kobe and hate Bush and his thugs and killers, you can do both.
winterinmoscow
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mears said:
Didn't you say something about a blanket police further up this thread?
I'm not denying the regime in NK is odious, but the people just dying....
Spin it round, no more food for Darfur until the peace deal gets sorted out. That's a helluva lot of people who are going to die in the meantime
winterinmoscow said:
But you need to deliver the food to the people in the first place. The food can't fall in the hands of those who are doing the killing.
Did you see where Osama mentioned Sudan? Send all the Muslim brothers down there to continue the blood bath.
Real good guy he is
winterinmoscow
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mears said:
Well it would seem the UN have done pretty well delivering food to Darfur until now - huh?
What are you about Mears, seriously? All I ever see of you is here in politics and I don't like most of what you say. But hey, you don't come over as being an Evangelical fundie either. Is it that you've actually thought but still come out with what most of us consider bilge. I dunno, please enlighten me.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
This quote over on the thread about J K Galbraith reminded me of Mears,
winterinmoscow
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mears said:
I meant exactly what I said, what is it that motivates you to write the sort of things that most of us condemn as bilge? Is all this some kind of an act, which I doubt, or what do you actually believe in?
I asked you a perfectly polite question as I was interested in what kind of principles you had to make you write the sort of things you do. All I see you of on here is seemingly of you defending Bush and saying the equivalent of "up yours, rest of world". And what's more, you give the impression of having thought about the issues and STILL supporting that view.
Is that it? Is that all there is? And here I was naively hoping there might be something behind all that.
Or perhaps, as I very much suspect, I am just simply wasting my time.
when Donald Rumsfeld was a director of ABB they built one of NKs nucelar reactors. currently british oil companies are in NK, no problem - one in particular which is Brit-American-Canadian. its listed on the AIM in London.
NK regime is maintained both by China and the USA to destablise the region, sometimes both at the same time, sometimes at different times. It fucks up the whole region, fucks with Japan, fucks with STh Korea, allows the US and China to militarise the region...just part of the game, 2 million dead doesnt mean anything in the White House, CPC HQ or to the great leader, just counters on the board game, just a bit of a giggle.
NK regime is maintained both by China and the USA to destablise the region, sometimes both at the same time, sometimes at different times. It fucks up the whole region, fucks with Japan, fucks with STh Korea, allows the US and China to militarise the region...just part of the game, 2 million dead doesnt mean anything in the White House, CPC HQ or to the great leader, just counters on the board game, just a bit of a giggle.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
mears said:
You don't like reading things that threaten to burst your bubble - do you? Hanoipete already told you in his post.
mears said:
Modern History for Mears lesson 427 :
It COULD be argued that the Korean War gave the MeriKans the excuse to continue the cold war ( by proxy ) into the 21st Century by having a large & arguably antagonistic Milirary presence in an area of undoubted fragility.
if you go to NK you will find that the problems behind the endless reunification tirades would ( from the DPRK perspective ) to eminate from MeriKan colonial rule in the South. Whether this is true or not could be discussed all day, but the PERCEPTION from both sides is that Merikan presence is stopping development & progress between the S & the N.
having such a flashpoint areas give the MeriKans a reason to maintain the military occupation of a valuable foothold in Asia & access to the inscrutable China.
Thus the line of thought is that MeriKa has kept Korea divided since the Korean War for nefarious geo political reasons, not entirely beneficial to the Korean penninsular.
if you remember the Old E Blok - MeriKa allocated the vast lands of Western Germany as its nex battleground with the commies & occupied accordingly - this may have been sold to the Europeans as a defence plan, but many saw it as a proxy to keep the fighting off the MeriKan mainland.
Coincidence ?
Hmmmmmmm
How does it maintain it? Its a balance, giving it cash and `aid` is one, often tied into games surrounding various things like military sites/intelligence and so on. China does the same. It generally fluctuates, sometimes they are more predisposed to NK if they think it might fuck up china or japan, sometimes less so. If NK actually has nukes - which i doubt - then that practice might bite them on their arse but its generally a succesful one, unless you are a north korean civiliian that is.
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