ChrisFilter said:Orang: It's like a racer for off-roading.. essentially the only difference is handle-bars, if you don't have knobbly tyres. Check Sig's thread on it being the ultimate bike form.
Sigmund Fraud said:Here:-
is a cyclocrosser the ultimate bicycle?
condor italia cross - bit pricey though, its a good time to buy a crosser now as its the off season.
ETA - this is what cyclocross looks like
ChrisFilter said:Is it worth the extra £100 to get Veloce? Mirage was fine for me before..

corporate whore said:What a pisser, Chris - had two lovely bikes snatched before I concluded the only way to get round it is to have a fairly shit bike. It's no way to live..![]()
Sigmund Fraud said:Veloce shifters are a bit nicer but the rest of the gruppo is only slightly heavier in Mirage than Veloce. Mirage is very black though.
They're a bit cheeky charging £100 extra, a Veloce groupset is only about £60 more...maybe ask them if you can go for Veloce shifters and keep the rest Mirage?
BTW for 2007 they've switched to 'ultra torque' chanisets and the entire range is now 10 speed (though they might still have 9sp in stock). Also the shifters work slightly differently, you can now upshift only 1 sprocket at a time - a backward step imho.

quite a lot more likely to go to the effort of getting though a good lock if it's an expensive bike though.Sigmund Fraud said:They'll nick anything though, a friend had a 1930's fixed wheel butchers bike nicked about 10 years ago (before fixers were trendy), despite being worth about £10 they had it.
rutabowa said:quite a lot more likely to go to the effort of getting though a good lock if it's an expensive bike though.
I'm sure it could be arrangedCrispy said:Is there a bike equivalent of that tailpipe shaggin photo?![]()


ChrisFilter said:Maybe they'll have some Italia '06 going cheap? Doubt it.
So you'd rate the 06 over the 07 then?
In reality I don't often shift up more than a gear at a time, so could live with it.
Will ask them at lunch, cheers Sig![]()

rutabowa said:oh right well not freezing spray then, bolt cutters or an angle grinder.
Sigmund Fraud said:They'll nick anything though, a friend had a 1930's fixed wheel butchers bike nicked about 10 years ago (before fixers were trendy), despite being worth about £10 they had it.
ChrisFilter said:My beautiful, beautiful Condor Italia has been stolen.. in broad daylight, in front of loads of people
It had 2 £90 locks on it, and I checked it was ok no more than 5 mins before. Incredibly how they got it. I thought it might be the council as it was chained to railings, but the woman on the phone said the council wouldn't have done it.
I loved that bike. I'll never forget you Condy
New bike though... what to get: cyclo-cross or fixie?


ATOMIC SUPLEX said:Yesterday a small gang nicked a bike, he followed them and they went from bike to bike really fast just nicking all day.
ChrisFilter said:Got a Accaiao, Mirage groupset, Veloce shifters. Vento rims. Compact chainset. White tape, white SPD SL pedals, a Fizix(sp?) saddly with a white stripe and a carbon seatpost. It looks properly sexy. Which means properly nickable, I know.

Sigmund Fraud said:Sounds good. The 07 Ventos are great wheels for the money, compact is definitely the way to go over triple and sounds like you've invested in a Fizik Arione saddle, which is v comfy but also ultra pimpy.![]()
That's pretty much true, but the guy did say it was a lush saddle and that all the Condor lads use it, so I thought I might as well.