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Big up the biggs - the great train robber is free!

no one should be allowed to die in prison like that. it's inhumane.

Why not? I dont believe in the death penalty but i believe some crimes (rape,murder child molestation) warrent life imprisonment in a cell with no contact with any one else until they die or kill themselves. Locked away where no one can see or hear them. Why should 'no one be allowed to die in prison?'
 
locked away where no-one can see or hear them


lol

apart from prison guards, cleaners, medical staff, family? etc etc
 
and totally fucking stupid


do you think that everyone convicted of any crime should be left to rot with no medical intervention if something happens?
 
and also yes I suppose they would get medical supervision. Why do you have to go and be so damn realistic about everything! ;)
 
Look if I want to drink wine and rant I will! :p No seriously of course they shouldn't be denied access to anyone else and left to rot but I am still not sure why no one should die in prison as a general rule. Surely some crimes are beyond rehabilitation?
 
The impression I got was that he was not getting out of bed, ever again. He is going to die. There is no need for prison guards or hand cuffs or any of that stuff, so why apply it?

'Some crimes are beyond rehabilitation' would you like to expend on that a little. I'd love to know where you can draw the line.
 
I'm not about to big up Biggs. He's just a thief.

On the other hand, he didn't kill anyone. It's not as if he's Rose West or Myra Hindley - who quite rightly was never released from custody (although she died in hospital). Biggs is no threat to anyone any more and there's not a lot of point in having a prison officer guard his bed, now he can't speak and isn't ever likely to get up again. Releasing him when he's probably only got a few weeks to live is hardly a great act of leniency IMO. He's been punished enough now: let him die in peace.
 
The impression I got was that he was not getting out of bed, ever again. He is going to die. There is no need for prison guards or hand cuffs or any of that stuff, so why apply it?

'Some crimes are beyond rehabilitation' would you like to expend on that a little. I'd love to know where you can draw the line.

I can see the logic of that. In the case of Biggs I was under the impression after reading the news he actually left prison but apparently not, as has been pointed out earlier on. I know what your getting at its just the idea of 'compassionate' release for someone who has been less than compassionate themselves (I know Biggs isn't exactly the worst offender ever so probably not the best example) doesnt wash with me. In response to your second point, I guess I am talking about the far end of the spectrum. Repeated child molestation, serial rapists and murderers. Without getting all tabloid about it it does feel to me like people get off very lightly sometimes. As you say though where can you draw the line. I just get annoyed when people assault people (for example), I am talking from first hand experience here, and cause permanent damage and walk away scot free.
 
I can't see biggs causing any more problems for the authorities he is close to death.I suppose there will be a kind of romanticism like with dick turpin who by all accounts was a brutal bastard.But the fact that he stuck two fingers up to the establishment is in his favour
 
I can't see biggs causing any more problems for the authorities he is close to death.I suppose there will be a kind of romanticism like with dick turpin who by all accounts was a brutal bastard.But the fact that he stuck two fingers up to the establishment is in his favour
death in the elderly is sadly not romantic
 
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