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Best veggie bacon?

fanta said:
Why on earth do you think I think that?
Because you said: "I just think they're missing out on appreciating some great food - namely, er, vegetables!"

So why would veggies be "missing out" on vegetables then?
 
This substitute bashing does seem awfully like a group of people trying vainly to hide their meat eater's guilt by pointing and making fun.
 
editor said:
Because you said: "I just think they're missing out on appreciating some great food - namely, er, vegetables!"


I think you're confusing the verbs: to eat and to appreciate

Easy mistake though, eh tiger?! :)
 
subversplat said:
This substitute bashing does seem awfully like a group of people trying vainly to hide their meat eater's guilt by pointing and making fun.

Guilt?

That, sir, is inspired! :D
 
So, no more recommendations of good veggie bacon products?

Okay, go on with your contrived argument then.

to your point though: veggie bacon, and veggie sausage are hardly pointless, trendy and/or fashionable. There is a demand for these things as some people do not wish to eat meat due to ethical reasons not because they dont' like the taste. So, some clever people thought - aha! there is a gap in the market, lets try and make a vegetarian substitute. Obviously they are not going to taste exactly the same as they are not the same. But they make some people happy so whats the problem. Nobody is forcing you to eat them. If I wasn't veggie I probably wouldn't eat them either (with the exception of some rather fantastic sausages of course...)

Some veggies would rather not eat something which reminds them, whether through taste, flavour or texture, of meat. Others wish to use meat substitutes as they like them. Why should they not? It's hardly "fashion" though. It's personal food choices based on ethical or religious or any other reason.

Personally, I don't really ever have meat substitutes and mostly prefer to cook interesting vegetarian food from scratch. However some omnivores when confronted with a vegetarian coming to dinner are at a loss for what to cook and cook the same as for everyone else but with a veggie meat-type substitute in place of the chicken or beef or whatever. Fair enough. there is a demand for it. For whatever reason.
 
crustychick said:
So, no more recommendations of good veggie bacon products?

Okay, go on with your contrived argument then.

to your point though: veggie bacon, and veggie sausage are hardly pointless, trendy and/or fashionable.

T'is merely my personal opinion.

To me brilliant vegetarian food, and it is brilliant, is Indian/Hindu, not attempts at re-creating meat...
 
fanta said:
I think you're confusing the verbs: to eat and to appreciate
So what evidence have you that vegetarians "miss out" on "appreciating" vegetables please?

(I'll save you the embarassment of going over your Linda McCartney 'bacon' fuck-up)
 
editor said:
So what evidence have you that vegetarians "miss out" on "appreciating" vegetables please?

(I'll save you the embarassment of going over your Linda McCartney 'bacon' fuck-up)

EVIDENCE?

You want EVIDENCE?

Oh dear...

... :)

You want me to show you the EVIDENCE!

:eek:

Your turn first Editor!

I asked you for some EVIDENCE ages ago and you still haven't come up with it!

SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE!

LOL :D
 
crustychick's last post makes most sense to me.

personally a lot of meat substitutes do not appeal to me whatsoever. this is probably down to me not 'missing' it as i've never had bacon etc.
my dad however, was fascinated by it when it came out, he had some rasher style stuff 'not bacon' maybe :confused:

i do however like a wide range of veggie burgers, nut cutlets and veggie sausages. every sat/sunday after being out the people i lived with used to do elaborate bacon/sausage rolls. the smell makes me sick but food cooking makes me hungry. so i started having rolls with 3 or 4 linda's sausaes with a tesco nutcutlet and loads of ketchup. not because i wanted to be like them or missed meat, just was easy and along the same lines.

so yes veggie substitutes can be a bit silly but so what, if it gets more people to become and stay veggie, saving a load more animals then i'm all for it.
no ecoli, bse, salmonella etc for me

firky - wtf are quasimodo ethics u loon?
 
crustychick said:
Erm, sorry to get back onto the thread topic, but what is your veggie bacon replacement which you like Editor???
I liked the Morning Star ones best, and there's a new brand I tried recently which I liked - I'll take a look later for the name.
 
ddraig said:
so yes veggie substitutes can be a bit silly but so what, if it gets more people to become and stay veggie, saving a load more animals then i'm all for it.
no ecoli, bse, salmonella etc for me

firky - wtf are quasimodo ethics u loon?

Agreed it is a personal thing.

But come on:

1 a plate of veggie bacon and veggie sausages etc.

2 a plate of potatoe, cauliflour and spinach curry.

No contest!
 
Sorry, tbh most veggie bacon is pretty nasty. What is really really good is asda's own brand frozen cumberland (or maybe lincolnshire) sausages - they are really tasty and gorgeous, perfect for casseroles etc :)
 
Mr moose used to swear by Morningstar, but it seems to have completely disappeared from everywhere round here.
 
moose said:
Mr moose used to swear by Morningstar, but it seems to have completely disappeared from everywhere round here.
Yeah a poster earlier said they have stopped production as they can't source GMO free ingredients or something. Oh well.
 
moose said:
Mr moose used to swear by Morningstar, but it seems to have completely disappeared from everywhere round here.

edit.. nm i totally misread your post :o
 
editor said:
I liked the Morning Star ones best, and there's a new brand I tried recently which I liked - I'll take a look later for the name.

Seeing as you are a veggie for ethical reasons does it bother you to find out that Morning Star uses eggs from caged hens?

When I was a veggie I wouldn't eat animal bi-products that used cruel farming methods and I still dont now even though I eat meat.
 
There is a reason that veggie sausages exist, and it is this:

If you live in a mixed veggie/non-veggie environment, then it's easy to make bangers and mash for everyone. Simple.

Veggie bacon however is just plain wrong. Have a fried egg or something instead. Funny how none bothers with veggie black pudding.
 
zenie said:
Seeing as you are a veggie for ethical reasons does it bother you to find out that Morning Star uses eggs from caged hens?
Seeing as I haven't been able to get my hands on Morning Star bacon for months on end, that's one thing I won't have to worry about.
 
grilled or fried halloumi cheese strangely tastes like bacon...if you in london, check out the cafe in hercules street, holloway road for a huge cheap veggie fry up featuring the above....
 
editor said:
Seeing as I haven't been able to get my hands on Morning Star bacon for months on end, that's one thing I won't have to worry about.

I wasnt having a go I was asking in general?
 
fractionMan said:
There is a reason that veggie sausages exist, and it is this:

If you live in a mixed veggie/non-veggie environment, then it's easy to make bangers and mash for everyone. Simple.

Veggie bacon however is just plain wrong. Have a fried egg or something instead. Funny how none bothers with veggie black pudding.
I had veggie haggis the other day. It was vile :(.
 
zenie said:
I wasnt having a go I was asking in general?
As much as I can, I eat free-range/organic/fair trade/non-GM wherever and whenever possible, but I make no claims to be perfect.
 
I try and avoid nestlé but their products are everywhere and sometimes I don't even realise I'm buying a nestlé product. It is pretty much impossible to eat ethically, short of being self sufficient.

One day, I'll have my little cave house and olive grove.

edit to add: Does anyone know what standards have to be achieved for meat to be classed as freerange?
 
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