Best time to hit the 'Reduced To Clear' section?

Discussion in 'suburban75' started by killer b, May 22, 2013.

  1. Schmetterling

    Schmetterling I saw something nasty in the woodshed!

    I wonder what the legality would have been if you had nicked it?
  2. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    Pretty straightforward really; he'd have been guilty of theft.
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  3. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    As spy says, guilty of theft. Even once it's gone in the bins it is still theirs and people skip diving are technically stealing though I'm not aware of anyone being charged/convicted
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  4. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

    They could have sought a prosecution for theft, but as they were committing an offence by placing on the market food unfit for human consumption, they would probably prefer not to make a fuss.
  5. og ogilby

    og ogilby Well-Known Member

    Pretty obvious it would be theft, but I've often wondered if the store/cops would have a different attitude if you walked out of the shop with a bag full of heavily discounted items with no full price goods.

    Would it be said in court you had stolen fifty quids worth of food or five pounds worth?
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  6. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    Five pounds, but perhaps it would be even more dimly viewed that nicking full priced stuff, given that you'd be depriving other people of cheap food.
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  7. Schmetterling

    Schmetterling I saw something nasty in the woodshed!

    I agree with Spymaster and BigTom that if one takes goods from a shop or a shop's bins without paying for them then, within the law as it is written, this would be theft; however, (I am playing with a legal philosophical, possibly, paradox here) the food was on display (still on offer) and priced. The poster offered to pay that price. The cashier noticed that the item was now completely out of date and thus refused the sale.
    We know that a person can only be punished within the confines of a law (nulla poene sine lege); it would be the defence's onus to proof that the above act cannot be punished.
    So, does a law exist which specifically forbids the poster from taking the food without paying for it after what I described above?
  8. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    Of course. The item is still the property of the store, regardless of the fact that they can't sell it.
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  9. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    I'd have to look up the laws but shops are allowed to refuse sale for any non-discriminatory reason, the item in question is still owned by them until they sell it to someone else and in this case there has been no transaction/sale so it is still legally their possession and therefore theft. Even once they throw it away, they still own it by law, until the refuse collection happens at which point the refuse collectors take ownership.
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  10. Schmetterling

    Schmetterling I saw something nasty in the woodshed!

    Hm; interesting. Ok, I can see how the same law could/would still apply then.
    ... just hoping to find a way out ... ;)
  11. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    except by using the scab tills and putting the steak through as potatoes :hmm:

    I cannot imagine anyone being charged for stealing in those circumstances, but it's definitely theft in a technical/legal sense.
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  12. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

    it's all about plausible deniability
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  13. fractionMan

    fractionMan Custom Title

    Our boxing day brisket was reduced from £18 to £4. Score!
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  14. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    I got bone-in, pork loin joint for £4 yesterday, down from £11.
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  15. iona

    iona makes George Orwell look like a dalek

    Loads of steak and paprika sweet potato fries ready-to-cook meals in Waitrose tonight reduced down to £1.49 from a fiver.
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  16. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    600g box of white and dark chocolates from M & S for £2.99 (down from £13). Best before date is tomorrow but I doubt I'll die of chocolate food poisoning.

    But I remembered after buying them I'm not that big a fan of chocolate. :hmm:
  17. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    Got through half the box and not enjoying the chore of eating chocolate. :(
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  18. bubblesmcgrath

    bubblesmcgrath Well-Known Member

    This saddens me .....:(
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  19. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    Chocolate is just a nasty claggy substance. :(

    I'll probably bin the remaining half of the box.
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  20. bubblesmcgrath

    bubblesmcgrath Well-Known Member


    Post it on to
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  21. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

    DP. but no idea how.

    Or maybe not. My phone just went veey very odd.
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  22. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

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  23. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    I'll stamp on the disgusting stuff before chucking it. :p
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  24. Oriole

    Oriole Well-Known Member

  25. The Boy

    The Boy danny la rouge is probably wrong.

    Nobbing and sobbing forum thataway ----->>
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  26. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

  27. May Kasahara

    May Kasahara thoughts start with a laser sound

    Not massive reductions, but I got 2x organic sirloin steaks, 4x wild salmon fillets and 3x outdoor bred pork loin steaks in the Sainsbury's RP section today.
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  28. killer b

    killer b No Hateration, No Holeration. in this Dancery

    Booths tramps buffet tonight was like a beautiful dream. I arrived just as they were unloading the good stuff - game, lamb, artisan pies, smoothies, fruit compote, all the vegetables, mangoes, grapes... all down to 20%. Glorious. We shall eat like kings this week. :)
  29. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist specter haunting

    a real brucie bonus today- not a huge one to some minds but to a man who likes his cheddars it was ace. Cathedral cheese for 50p, only its not a whole block. Its five individually wraped cheddar variants. The one I just et made my eyes water. And they say cheddar is bland!
  30. jimbarkanoodle

    jimbarkanoodle Well-Known Member

    I havent had a decent haul in ages. Sainsburys are the worst at reductions i find, a paltry 30% if your lucky- they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. I dont mind when Lidl only offer 30% as its cheap as fuck to begin with, but sainsburys, nah mate, outright thieves!

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