miss giggles
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The Windmill in Soho. It's a very plush night out. Good if you like it all glitz and glam. The dancers are stunning.
Best strip clubs?
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Mr Massy has apparently been "dragged in to" a strip joint by Aldgate East tube by one of his students. He didn't like it really. Said nothing was left to the imagination, no mystery etc. No fun when some bird just flashes her stash straight away, no knickers or anything.
It took him at least 5 goes before he decided he didn't like it.
The first 4 goes he just said he was down the pub.
He was telling me fibs!
Never mind. He still thinks I was home watching corrie rather than shoving coke up my hooter with Italian Phil.
Hurray for marriage!
It took him at least 5 goes before he decided he didn't like it.
The first 4 goes he just said he was down the pub.
He was telling me fibs!
Never mind. He still thinks I was home watching corrie rather than shoving coke up my hooter with Italian Phil.
Hurray for marriage!
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
did someone say "strip mill" ?
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fogbat
The Talibum
rorymac said:It's how we are and we aint sorry Arty. When I was with young Alan (milesy) in the wrongun memorabillia shop when he said 'that's a fantastic pair of bazookas Ms Brahms .. do you mind if I hold the bazookas Rose? Well I fuckin slashed my slacks .. milesy knew what he was saying .. fuckin LMAO at that !!!! .. so that's breasts or melons RATFLMFAO at melons .. wurtcha .. done and dusted .. <giggles out loud> The other one that gets me totally hysterical .. aw fuckin hell .. lol lol lol .. well going to the toilet . I don't know why Noi nooooooooooooo noooooooooooooooo leave me alone. We aint done no harm. A German bloke started on me yesterday .. 'Why are you laughing laughing all the time about focking going to da toilet'? it's stupid shut up or I will beat your butt. I wasn't even laughing about anything .. I was well pissed off .. heh heh heh all the same .. fuckin wicked
It's pathetic in a way I suppose .. well it is
Bras Brassiéres basques suspenders fuckin LOL LOL
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Masseuse said:Mr Massy has apparently been "dragged in to" a strip joint by Aldgate East tube by one of his students. He didn't like it really. Said nothing was left to the imagination, no mystery etc. No fun when some bird just flashes her stash straight away, no knickers or anything.
It took him at least 5 goes before he decided he didn't like it.
I know that strip bar it's The Black Horse or Black Lion isn't it. That used to be famous amongst strip bars in that it had a hatch in the wall to the kebab shop next door so that you could get a doner kebab whilst watching the strippers.
Sadly the kebab and strippers arrangement is long gone
Ye Olde Axe for fun seediness. Avoid the Rainbow Sports Bar in Shorditch apparantly the managment treats the dancers like shit.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Kebab...strippers...arrangement...
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
kyser_soze said:
I shall re phrase: the arrangement of the bar whereby customers could purchase quality doner kebabs without having to leave the pub whilst the exotic dancers are performing which was accomplished by a serving hatch joining the pub and the kebab shop.
Paulie Tandoori
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KeyboardJockey said:
Yeah, cos of course, all of the other places treat the women really well, don't they? Y'know, pensions and proper wages and no pressure to offer extras to the sad-bastard customers.......
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Paulie Tandoori said:
You get shit employers in any field. Some employers are better than others. I was told about the problems with the 'gangsters' who run the Rainbow by a dancer who has no problem with what she does for a living and doesn't feel exploited.
There are abuses in the strip game the same as there is any other field of employment. This is why initiatives to get working girls / rent boys and exotic dancers into Unions is a good one in my opinion.
Some strip clubs are badly and exploitatively managed and some are not.
Paulie Tandoori
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KeyboardJockey said:
Oh yeah, i forgot, all those working girls really enjoy it, don't they
(or is that what the sad little wankers desperately try to convince themselves of when they're taking advantage of their superior earning power, i wonder?)And I'd be very surprised if the abuses in the "strip game", as you so quaintly put it, are the same as in any other field. The sex industry breeds men who take advantage of vulnerable women, thats why sex workers have formed a union. The fact of essentially being marginalised/criminalised in many ways enshrines the abuses that takes place.
kyser_soze
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So Paulie, when was the last time you talked to a woman who works somewhere like Browns or The Windmill about whether she enjoys her work, gets abused by the management etc.
Not recently I suspect.
Not recently I suspect.
Paulie Tandoori
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kyser_soze said:
I know someone in the Union - what about you?
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
kyser_soze said:
Thank you for making the point to PT that I was going to make. As regards working girls / boys. There are a shed load of very well run brothels out there which pro actively work with the authoirities to protect their staff and end the trafficking of people into the UK for the sex trade.
What PT fails to realise is that a lot of the better run brothels don't have a 'shady man' behind them they are run by retired working girls themselves.
I met one of the working girls union reps last year and chatted with her and she does enjoy her sex work and finds that it uses all her physical and psychological skills etc which other jobs wouldn't allow her to do.
The quicker that the sex trade is legitimised and put totally under the control of the sex workers themselves the quicker that abuses will go down. Get the workers in control and the gangsters out. If you want a job where you are guaranteed to be physically abused then try being a kebab shop owner on a Saturday night.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that Paulie Tandoori's information may be a little out of date.
Paulie Tandoori
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Ok, you carry on convincing yourself that there isn't a problem, as you continue to buy into it. Meanwhile, how about letting the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine know that there's not a problem with trafficking or violence in the sex industry whilst you're at it eh?
See, they have this crazy notion in a report that they have just published, called Stolen smiles: (pdf file) a summary report on the physical and psychological health consquences of women and adolescents trafficked in Europe that:
See, they have this crazy notion in a report that they have just published, called Stolen smiles: (pdf file) a summary report on the physical and psychological health consquences of women and adolescents trafficked in Europe that:
Nine out of ten women in this study (90%) reported having been physically forced or intimidated into sex or doing something sexual.
as well asNearly eight in every ten women (76%) had been physically assaulted by traffickers, pimps, madams, brothel and club owners, clients, or their boyfriends.
No problems with the sex industry there eh? Cos of course, you can both demonstrate clearly that you would never go to a strip club or use the services of someone who was being abused in such ways. Would you?
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Paulie Tandoori said:
FFS Did I say there wasn't a problem with trafficking of women for dodgy brothels? Of course there is.
People trafficking is wrong. period. no arguments about that.
Where I think you are wrong is where you appeared to tag ALL of the sexual services industry as exploitative. If this is your argument then it removes choice from individuals the same way as a pimp would.
As to my own ethics. I would never ever go to a working girl if I had any inkling that either she was working under duress or the establishment had any dealings with traffickers. Because of what dancers have told me about the Rainbow about wage cuts and bullying managment I wouldn't go there either.
There is a very high quality brothel in my area who actually has a statement about how 'they refuse to deal with trafickked women and the people involved in this' Bearing in mind that the owner of this establishment is an experienced 7 years + highly successful working girl I would think that she would know the signs of coercion.
People trafficking is not the same as whoring.
Paulie Tandoori
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KeyboardJockey said:
Yes, and a great deal of the problem with trafficking women is centred on the sex industry, hence my ire at your earlier statement with selecting one random club as not being good when the problem of women being exploited lies much wider than that.
KeyboardJockey said:
No its not. But it is a significant factor that underlies the current situation, no matter which way you look at it.
You say you wouldn't go with someone working under duress - what about the girls in Preston who'll let you take them up the back door for a tenner cos they're desperate for smack? Do you consider that duress? Or is that acceptable? I've a friend who's a drugs worker up north and that's the going rate at the moment.
I share your desire for a much improved deal for people who choose to do this sort of work, and i agree that legalisation and organisation would help to make a bad situation better. What I can't agree with is any underplaying of the quite real exploitation that continues to be a feature of strip clubs/brothels/etc.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Paulie Tandoori said:
There is also a fair bit of trafficking going on regarding agriculture and pisceculture as well as a whole load of chinese illegals found out on Morecombe Bay a couple of years back.
Paulie Tandoori said:
Traffiking is a factor but it's not the whole story.
Paulie Tandoori said:
Thats an appalling situation in anybodies eyes. But again this is not a trafficking issue this is an issue around drugs and the disaster of drug prohibition. Of course I wouldn't do this and desparation for drugs that should be available on a doctors prescrription is a form of duress.
Paulie Tandoori said:
I don't think that I am underplaying the issue. Shit happens in the sex industruy as well as in others.
Paulie Tandoori
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cybertect said:I suspect anybody who took up that kind of offer would be a damn fool asking for all sorts of trouble
People do tho, that's the pity of it.
Paulie Tandoori
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KeyboardJockey said:
And we're back to where we started. Exploitation happens everywhere, agreed, it just that sex workers are probably more vulnerable to exploitation than those in most other industries, due to the inherent power imbalance.
DIMPLES1
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KeyboardJockey said:
I am in my 2nd week, in my newly choosen career as a stripper. I've not done many shifts yet, partly cos I had an upset tum last week, which isn't helpful when you're getting your kit off. Only worked in 3 different venues so far, one being the Queen Anne in Vauxhall.
All the places are managed differently ie different amounts per dance, number of dancers, number of dances per hour etc, but so far each place has put the safety & convenience of the dancers first. At the first glimpse of a rowdy punter or it looking like someone was about to take a picture etc. the barstaff & management have come down on the punter like a ton of bricks. No messing.
Forgot to say all the staff, management & other girls have been lovely & very helpful so far. Lots of advise & tips too. Been made to feel welcome.
The rules are of behaviour are stated quite clearly for the dancers & punters to abide by, for everyone's well being.
I'm working for an agency. The agency checks out all establishments before taking them on their books, as they do not want to send the dancers anywhere dodgy.
I am doing this of my own free will & am quite happy about it. I've never had a problem with nudity, so if someone wants to pay to see it, I'm not bothered. I did meet one girl on my 1st day on the job, who wasn't happy doing it, but was stripping to support her 8yr old son back in Brazil - v. sad.
So far I'm quite enjoying it, lots of info to take in & lots to learn, & quite tiring, but basically I'm getting paid to sit round a pub / club, chatting, having drinks bought for me & every now & then I've gotta flash me bits.
Forgot to say, so far all the staff, management & other girls have been lovely & very helpful. Plenty of advice & tips from them all.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
I went to one -- accidentally 
-- of the Gray's Inn Road, a few years back. Found myself sitting in a bar, with strippers thrusting their crotches almost in my face. Most disconcerting.
-- of the Gray's Inn Road, a few years back. Found myself sitting in a bar, with strippers thrusting their crotches almost in my face. Most disconcerting. 
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