Best Sequencer Software?
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sunnysidedown
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elbows
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Its good, but for the sake of clarity I should point out that its a step sequencer, and mac only.
Which has an inbuilt sequencer.
sunnysidedown
caput mortuum
Most DAWs have inbuilt sequencers funnily enough.
Well yes, because that's what they generally started out as.
sunnysidedown
caput mortuum
Not Pro Tools or Ableton Live.
Edit: which is why I mentioned Numerology as it is strictly a sequencer (as the thread title asks).
Everything so far mentioned is better termed a DAW.
/pedantic
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I suppose it depends on what people intend on sequencing. If it's an entirely midi setup then they could try and get hold of an older version of cubase. A producer I'm mates with swears by Cubase being run on an Atari ST as being the best. But what if they want to use soft synths? Then it's definitely worth pointing out the pros and cons of the different DAW packages.
sunnysidedown
caput mortuum
Agreed, I've got a mate who still has his hardware synths hooked up to his Atari ST as the clocks rock solid.
I'm more about convenience these days, Ableton Suite + U-He synths is all I need
I don't recall starting this thread back in 2006, but as it happens I settled on Logic. Although I only really use it for sound editing and sound design work, very rarely write any actual music on it. I still enjoy messing about on Reason when I want to make bleepy electronic noises.
miniGMgoit
OverWeightUnderAchiever
Reaktor makes me want to through my computer out the window. My brain just don't work that way sadly.
I might have a crack at building something akthough if I manage sonething decent (for me) I suspect It'd just be a lot shitter than anything akready out there, so what's the point?
Anyway, that probably deserves a thread of its own as it isn't really sequencer specific.
Anyway, that probably deserves a thread of its own as it isn't really sequencer specific.
Maschine is pretty good sequencing software that is becoming more attractive as it slowly noses its way towards full daw status. I suggest this as sequencing software is only ever improved by there being dedicated hardware that integrates seemlessly with it.
Maschine Studio is looking pretty sexy, if a bit pricey for what it is. It's like we've done a full round turn and are back to hardware workstations again; only this time running with the power of a pc. An ideal solution really.
Maschine Studio is looking pretty sexy, if a bit pricey for what it is. It's like we've done a full round turn and are back to hardware workstations again; only this time running with the power of a pc. An ideal solution really.
elbows
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Yeah I was blown away by how well software-hardware integration can work when I first tried the Maschine. The new 2.0 version does look like a nice evolution and the new hardware looks lovely, but those great new displays have really messed with the price point. For that price I'd kind of want an audio interface to be built into the hardware really at least, and in any case I sadly can't justify it to myself.
I note that Akai have tried to stay in the game with their own software-hardware hybrid, the MPC Renaissance.
Personally since I already have Ableton Live and could do with far more pads for notes & sequencing than Maschine offers, I'm currently intrigued by the Push. Just got a template for the Lemur on the iPad called Shove so I can test whether the Push workflow works for me without having to get the hardware first.
In any case with any of these options there is little doubt that the use of tightly integrated software-hardware workflows that avoid having to mess around with a mouse too often really helps make the whole experience much better, avoiding distraction and helps people stay in the music-making mode of thought much better. More fun too which always helps
Cheaper options such as the Novation launchpad also work, though the more limited visual feedback as to what the hell you are doing, lack of knobs on the standard grid version kinda spoils the ease of use and steepens the learning curve, but the price is way cheaper, and its still fun for step sequencing and to a limited extent (no velocity sensitivity on the pads) as an automatically scaled alternative to traditional music keyboards. I can get my head round patterns of grid scaled notes in a way I've never managed with the shapes you need to learn with traditional instruments.
I note that Akai have tried to stay in the game with their own software-hardware hybrid, the MPC Renaissance.
Personally since I already have Ableton Live and could do with far more pads for notes & sequencing than Maschine offers, I'm currently intrigued by the Push. Just got a template for the Lemur on the iPad called Shove so I can test whether the Push workflow works for me without having to get the hardware first.
In any case with any of these options there is little doubt that the use of tightly integrated software-hardware workflows that avoid having to mess around with a mouse too often really helps make the whole experience much better, avoiding distraction and helps people stay in the music-making mode of thought much better. More fun too which always helps
Cheaper options such as the Novation launchpad also work, though the more limited visual feedback as to what the hell you are doing, lack of knobs on the standard grid version kinda spoils the ease of use and steepens the learning curve, but the price is way cheaper, and its still fun for step sequencing and to a limited extent (no velocity sensitivity on the pads) as an automatically scaled alternative to traditional music keyboards. I can get my head round patterns of grid scaled notes in a way I've never managed with the shapes you need to learn with traditional instruments.
Still got my Yamaha QY70 which is ace
elbows
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You can control them easily enough, its initially selecting them via just the push hardware that may currently be flawed - I get the idea that its not easy to browse plugins via the push hardware yet.
Its still early days for the Push, I'll wait a while and see if their pace of development is better than NI's, which to be honest left me frustrated as a very early adopter of the Maschine. I know that, for example, they are only just adding a melodic (as opposed to drum) sequencer to the Push with Ableton 9.1 (which is now in public beta).
What I would really like to see is a rough equivalent of this stuff for the iPad. I'd rather use the large, high res screen of the iPad than pay a premium for the Maschine displays, and I like the price of synths for the iPad. Perhaps I will get the updated Novation Launchpad S which can be plugged straight into the iPad and play around with developing my own sequencing software.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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I have a QY 30, but in the light of Logic and USB mini stuff I just don't know it I will ever use it again.
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I guess the point I was trying to make is that using maschine hardware doesn't mean you must use the software as your sequencer. I wouldnt; I'd use Live as my DAW controlled by maschine and a keyboard and only use maschine 2.0 as a VST in live, if at all. I think the only advantage of the push besides price is having more pads for triggering scenes/clips if that's your bag.
But then I'm a NI whore so it would look like that to me.
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elbows
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More pads for playing notes and, considering the thread we are talking about this in, sequencing notes!
snadge
metal alchemist
This is the best sequencer.
http://www.birthofasynth.com/Scott_Stites/Pages/Klee_Birth.html
Now available as software.
http://defectiverecords.com/klee/index2.html
http://www.birthofasynth.com/Scott_Stites/Pages/Klee_Birth.html
Now available as software.
http://defectiverecords.com/klee/index2.html
