Best Political Punk
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Except that the Redskins weren't a punk band
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Dead Kennedys - the only band whose lyrcics I have ever paid the slightest bit of notice to, barring The Smiths and Public Enemy
you took Chuck D's clothes off? 
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
oops
cyberfairy said:Citizen fish are the bizness
As the Charity Department at the Treasury dispenses licenses so you can do one too, the Ethiopians are running out of weaponry, so their leaders stock it up instead of food. And charity begins at home, so get out on the streets and help the refugees. And the manager of EMI Technology seems reluctant to discuss his business deals, because the weapon sales are paying for his meals. He'll go to wuthering heights to keep it out of sight. Profit! Weaponry doesn't fee refugees. It's a hit! McCartney's saying please on TV's royalties to feed the world with guns. Wembley Stadium forever on the video, and a million spent the raise that sixty more. Nothing ever quite as big as this before and it broke our hearts as it topped the charts. But when the overkill exploited the reality, we forgot the facts and reveled in the noise. We didn't see that while we had the voice companies and lords were pulling vocals chords. If the Western World was less obsessed with property and the need to keep it safe with threats of war, then the Third Worlds wouldn't need a War Economy that we're supplying at a cost they can't afford. So we buy up all their crops and grain and sell it back again when there ain't no rain. Have a big campaign, using famous names. And as the Penny drops into the oxfambox, take off the V.A.T. then call it "charity." And the public thinks the government is wonderful for promoting our assistance to the poor, but their profits are a whole lot more. They create the need to feed the refugees and then delegate the guilty feeling to the public eye via pictures of starvation on TV. Let's get the public conscience back out on the streets with the empty tins and little flags on pins. Then call it "charity." Let's call it "charity." BUT make it pay!
fucking love this tune as i read this RDF are on the playour but for me it has to be crass and for now anti flag..
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
i like crass on a musical level. is that wrong?
lights.out.london
Black Flag
Dead Kennedys
Subhumans
Conflict
Crass
Black Flag (personal politics)
Subhumans
Conflict
Crass
Black Flag (personal politics)
bus said:which is preceisely what was wrong with the pistols, who were essentially the proto manufactured boy band
...with great tunes.
Not punk but Shakin' Stevens used to do benefit gigs for the Communist Party before he had his moment in the sun. Comes from a huge family on Cardiff's roughest council estate. Bet he's more working-class than any members of Crass. Actually I'd prefer to listen to Shakey's ersatz Elvis than be preached at by a bunch of former hippies.
I'd probably go for the Dead Kennedys for political punk. But what was their politics? They didn't like Republicans and liberals - but then who does? So how genuinely political is that?
lights.out.london
Black Flag
Brockway said:
I'm impressed. Not a lot of people know that.
You're maybe being a wee bit harsh on Crass? Nice sentiments and they always put themselves in the frontline when it came to dealing with the BM (remember them?), NF and other unsavoury types.
Brockway said:
Hmm. All the "in it together" went out the window when it came to ownership and royalties though? Whatever happened in that court case?
Nice posting, Brockway. Pleasure to read.
Brockway said:
and once again someone goes for the easy target.
Not ALL of Crass were middle class hippies, you know. But that doesn't fit the stereotype, does it?
one of my favourite 'political' lyrics:
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
actually, i'd say, politically and musically the Ex on their first two or three albums.
tho all considered i'd probably opt for Cr@ss, tho they did come out with a lot of nonsense. but let's not get into that
tho all considered i'd probably opt for Cr@ss, tho they did come out with a lot of nonsense. but let's not get into that
Brockway said:oooooooooooooooooh!
Crass were never popular on my council estate.
That's not the same thing, is it? Think of the most working class punk band you can and see how popular THEY were on your council estate.
See, not the same point at all, is it?
Brockway said:
Well ignoring the other point you were making (and now seem to be denying), how can you say political punk barely exists? that's just facile nonsense, isn't it? Look at the dozens of names on this thread alone.
Either
a) they're not political or
b) you think they make up a fraction of the amount of punk bands, of whom the rest are non-political.
Neither of which is true.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
All the lyrics quoted so far are shit
Dubversion said:
I'm not denying anything. It's just you seem a bit sensitive about middle-classnesss and I didn't want to upset you.
As for the political stuff. What were the politics of the Dead Kennedys? Or the Clash? Most bands on this list were anti-something or other, did benefit gigs for this and that, but what was their political agenda? I have no idea. They weren't genuinely political in a way that Crass were.
Brockway said:
I'd say you were entirely wrong. Crass had no specific political message at all - indeed, went out of their way to avoid being aligned with any political group. They dealt with issues and causes, often in a very abstract way, without allying themselves, ever.
Isn't this pretty much what the Clash and the Dead Kennedys did?
Strikes me you have a very narrow view of what constitutes politics
As for the middle class thing - i'm not sensitive about it at all, it's just lazy and wrong. Not all of Crass were middle-class, so it's facile to use that as a stick to beat them with. Simple, really
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