Crispy
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She's never needed to swap music with her mates. I have no idea.
Best MP3 player / iPod type thang for PC user/uploading CDs to?
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She's never needed to swap music with her mates. I have no idea.
i haven't seen a Zen in years that needs bespoke software.
Crispy
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Secretary at my work didn't know you could drag the blue bar to move a window. She'd been using a computer for at least 10 years.
Well you have to, because like others here I can testify to exactly that experience.
My dad's mouse control and system level knowledge of the OS are lamentable, but he can easier understand dedicated applications for specific things. He manages to open them and fights his way through from there.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
sorry, but what is a UI?
hmmm...this is where things get a bit daunting again. I haven't a clue even what a AAC file is - that really is the level of computer savvy i have.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Why? It's not a requirement for someone who only uses a PC to surf, manage photos etc since they are all 1-3 click apps. Something like MS Slideshow means you can manage your pics and never, ever have to use cut/copy/paste - you really are taking your own level of user experience and casting that as the baseline, and it really, really isn't. I know, I train people how to use the damn things!
hmmm...this is where things get a bit daunting again. I haven't a clue even what a AAC file is - that really is the level of computer savvy i have.
see, you don't have to worry about any of this AAC crap with Creative. It's just a regular mp3 file.
More i-Pod nonsense.
cesare
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Some people just use a pc for email. Or to write letters (which they then struggle to find afterwards
) which they just print off and post. Some people use search to find files and never get their head round windows explorer.kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
sorry, but what is a UI?
hmmm...this is where things get a bit daunting again. I haven't a clue even what a AAC file is - that really is the level of computer savvy i have.
UI=User Interface...also GUI (gooey) Graphic User Interface, i.e. what you see on your desktop...this as opposed to a text based UI like wot PCs used to have...
It's another file type for music files is all. iTunes defaults to a copy protected MP4, which means that while you can use the tunes on your PC/iPod, you can't copy them, make data discs etc for other people to use.
Just make sure you're ripping your music as MP3s, done via preferences, and you'll be peachy...
Crispy
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sorry, but what is a UI?
hmmm...this is where things get a bit daunting again. I haven't a clue even what a AAC file is - that really is the level of computer savvy i have.
In which case, it doesn't matter. Just install itunes (you can do this right now from www.apple.com.itunes) insert a cd and click Inport. That's all you have to do.
Crispy
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Not true. Default rip is to unprotected AAC. Not important anyway. Everything will work just fine if chico leaves all the settings at their defaults.
And you and Crispy are throwing examples of the most computer illiterate people you can find to prove your point.
Presumably you suggest Crispy's mum should use a pen and paper in a clipfolder rather than word, all that fiddly My Documents stuff to contend with.
OK, let's agree that for the really really REALLY computer ignorant, iTunes is the way forward.
Doesn't mean that for most people this is still the case.
kained&able
Here for the football.
sorry, but what is a UI?
hmmm...this is where things get a bit daunting again. I haven't a clue even what a AAC file is - that really is the level of computer savvy i have.
Ui= user interface. The programme in this case. so stuff you click on and see.
aac is itunes defualt version of an mp3 filethat is basicly only playable using itunes or an ipod.
dave
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
i'm not being funny, but i have never even been able to work out how to 'drag and drop' stuff into windows media player so i can alter the order of songs from an original cd if i want to burn a compilation. i just always 'cut and paste' stuff instead.
i really think very often many people pre-suppose some folk have a degree of computer literacy infinitely greater to what they may actually have.
it's like putting a guitar in a toddler's hands and saying "right play 'chinese rocks' - you can't get much easier than that"
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Well, they've changed that - when I got my iPod 4 years ago I found (to my cost) that it had ripped everything to DRMd MP4...
same thing.
and no, I'm honestly not pre-supposing anything at all. I think the pro-i-Tunes lobby are being disingeneous though
Crispy
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Also not true. AAC has wide support these days. The Creative players and pretty much every mobile phone for example.
cesare
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sorry, but what is a UI?
hmmm...this is where things get a bit daunting again. I haven't a clue even what a AAC file is - that really is the level of computer savvy i have.
UI = user interface. How the user actually uses it as opposed to how it all works behind the scene as it were.
I wouldn't worry too much about AAC v MP3, it's unlikely to affect you until you get up and running with it and a bit more used to managing music on the pc. I was using iTunes for a good couple of years before I even realised about the different types of music files there are. Non-issue.
AAC is actually a renamed open source Dolby format iirc. It's the same format used by Sony and other manufacturers, sometimes called MPEG4/M4a iirc.
The only restricted AAC's to worry about are the ones bought off the itunes store, which are lightly copy protected. You can also buy 'standard' mp3s from the same store/.
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hiraethified
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hiraethified
Could you define the concept of "lightly copy protected" please?
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
fwiw, i bought my daughter a creative zen but it didn't last that long before dying.
so now she had an ipod replacement (altho it got nicked from her college) and my son has one of the ipod nanos and it looks & sounds great and seems to be very very easy to use.
so now she had an ipod replacement (altho it got nicked from her college) and my son has one of the ipod nanos and it looks & sounds great and seems to be very very easy to use.
Burn up to 5 copies on multiple machines. Easily circumvented by copying onto cd and reimporting, that kind of thing.
It was one of the least restrictive DRM schemes available at the the time, increasingly being phased out as the majors finally concede that unprotected mp3s are the way forward.
kained&able
Here for the football.
From the same Register source;
If there's one thing you can't accuse ipods off, it's having 'odd controls' that are 'truly hopeless'.
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hiraethified
No, their control system is great (didn't Creative have a hand in that anyway?).
But you could certainly accuse them of offering less value, less features and being overpriced compared to the competition.
Oh, that's really convenient. Not.
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hiraethified
Which means that there's an awful lot of people out there who clearly aren't right in the head by your reckoning!
