Best Metallica album (again)

[xenon]

What?! I think load is massively underrated, its great album! I think its also hetfields most personal. It was a mature development of their sound, though things have regressed with the truly truly awful st. anger.

St Anger, I thought had quite a bit of aclaim. Mainly because of the back to basics, all played live, rough around the edges sort of feel. Personally I think it's boaring, sloppy and sounds like a debute album or demo.

I like some of the slower tracks on Load and Reload. The rest is a bit meh.

 

[kyser_soze]

TBH, my fave tracks by Metallica are all on Garage Dayz Revisited...and Breadfan...

 

[Psychonaut]

1. Pastor of Muppets
2. And Justic for All
3. Metallica (The Black Album)

And Justice for All would possibly be my number 1 if the production weren't so lacking in bass!

Imagine how good it would sound if they remixed and remastered it!!!

theres fan remixes, i got a torrent; 'and justice for jason' it sounds alright to me, but im not an audiophile.

The bass is almost exactly the same as rhythm guitar anyway IIRC.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

exactly! the producuction is shit on ....and justice for all.


Wouldn't be shocked if it got remastere dbefore too log. They released master again a year(or so) ago.


dave

Yeah bass, what bass?

 

[CJohn]

St Anger, I thought had quite a bit of aclaim.

It did? Well you know what the music press can be like. Its a terrible album, I am sure that this is an objective fact and not a subjective opinion

Agreeing with the before mentioned 'load' sentiments, its a shame they didn't keep developing in that vein. I see st. anger as wildly different and infinitely worse than anything that went before, its a totally new sound, as opposed to the progression we'd had until then. Sure hetfield went into rehab, clearly working through his issues has been bad for their art.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

St Anger just sounded like they didn't care about what they were creating. If you listen to the different instruments it sounds like four people from different bands struggling to sound like one outfit...

 

[Wanderer]

I think that St. Anger and Frantic are both fairly decent tracks. Wouldn't criticise them that much and I've enjoyed listening to them. The rough edge works quite well on both tracks. However, every other track on the album... meh.

 

[lights.out.london]

TBH, my fave tracks by Metallica are all on Garage Dayz Revisited...and Breadfan...

Righteous.

 

[dilute micro]

Kill Em All

Because metallica with Dave Mustaine was the all time greatest metal band to ever play a tune. Without Dave the band became monolithic. They didn't have the influence of other types of music that Dave brought.

 

[Meltingpot]

I thought Mustaine had left by the time "Kill 'Em All" came out?

 

[CharlieAddict]

I thought Mustaine had left by the time "Kill 'Em All" came out?

ride the lightning had alot of mustaine's leftovers.
i think the true talent to metallica was cliff burton - they went seriously shit after puppets.

 

[Meltingpot]

ride the lightning had alot of mustaine's leftovers.
i think the true talent to metallica was cliff burton - they went seriously shit after puppets.

Not sure about that (I voted for the black album as my favourite), but I think everyone is agreed that Cliff was a great bassist. The lyrics on "To live is to die" were by him as well.

 

[dilute micro]

I thought Mustaine had left by the time "Kill 'Em All" came out?

Dave had 4 songs on Kill em All and some afterwards that he didn't get credit on. But his influence can be heard in Hetfield's early songs. Then after they kicked him out it disappears.

 

[lights.out.london]

Dave Mustaine - great guitarist/total cock.

 

[CharlieAddict]

out of that generation, me thinks mustaine was the ultimate guitarist/lyricist/badass.
he was a complete cock but at least he had skill and was able to market himself after metallica dropped him.

i wonder what happened to all them other bands - testament, overkill, flotsam and jetsam? i wonder if they have office jobs now.

 

[hipipol]

All the noise from these guys makes my arse drip
They are, and have always been crap

 

[Meltingpot]

Dave Mustaine - great guitarist/total cock.

I've read quite a few interviews he's done as well as pieces written about him, and it seems to me there's two Dave Mustaines. One's an intelligent, thoughtful guy who can say things like (about the Rodney King case), "If it had been a case of four black cops beating up a white motorist, those cops would have been swinging from a tree!", and the other is a macho dickhead, who says after the first Gulf War; "Well, did we f**k the Iraqis or what?" It seems it's pot luck which of the two you get.

I agree he's a great guitarist though, maybe even a genius.

 

[Meltingpot]

Dave had 4 songs on Kill em All and some afterwards that he didn't get credit on. But his influence can be heard in Hetfield's early songs. Then after they kicked him out it disappears.

Thanks for that. If memory serves he tried to sue Hetfield saying he wrote a lot of "Kill Em All,"
but the court case came to nothing - maybe Metallica had better lawyers.

 

[CharlieAddict]

mustaine was a republican - 'was' cos i don't know if he is one now.

and he is a genius, an inspiration to those around him.

shame he couldn't keep his ego under control.
but i blame that on his ginger roots and addiction.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

All the noise from these guys makes my arse drip
They are, and have always been crap

Wow quite literally metal up your arse!

 

[mitochondria]

AJFA for the music

 

[hipipol]

Kid E

Best place for it really, up the arse, though I mourn the passing on the gatefold sleeve album

So much more fun back in the day like!!

 

[Psychonaut]

mustaine was a republican - 'was' cos i don't know if he is one now.

Ive seen a vid of him promoting the 'rock the vote' thing on US mtv, mustve been a long time ago.

Wasnt 'rock the vote' a democrat scheme?

 

[CharlieAddict]

Ive seen a vid of him promoting the 'rock the vote' thing on US mtv, mustve been a long time ago.

Wasnt 'rock the vote' a democrat scheme?

it's something i read from wikipedia.
and when the 1st gulf war started, i remembered how he supported bush.

can't find the quote but here's what he said in round 2.
http://www.pitriff.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1013

the problem with mustaine is that he thinks his opinions are unquestionable.
his words are sovereign, royalty, godlike.
that's why it's funny when he says stupid things

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mustaines terrorist blunder

 

[rob fade]

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlf...rist blunder

Doh, what a tit-head.

 

[Psychonaut]

Its difficult to discern any political 'side' from the recent lyrics. One minute hes slating the UN for not doing anything, then referencing Halliburton several songs later.

Ah well, it was allways about the riffs and licks anyway. As long as hes suitably pissed off about something - thats the main thing

....And to beat violence, you must ignore the focus groups
You must send in the Mossad, turn of the BBC, CNN
And don't look back
Rest assured there'll be no more Middle Eastern crisis, hell!
There'll be no more Middle East!
These are your people Liberty
Pull up your dress today
And tattooed is "property of The USA
A subsidiary of Halliburton"
Surprise?!
But a roaring lion is about to be on earth
Hey, Jihad Joe? Guess what? We're coming to get you!

http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/megadeth/unitedabominations.html#9

 

[kyser_soze]

I always thought Mustaine falls into the 'would be survivalist' category - hates the govt, but also hates anyone who is 'anti-American' as well. I'd put money on it that he's at least attracted to 9/11 conspiracies/Alex Jones types and if he wasn't such a pussy assed Bay boy he'd be up in Montana whittling punji stakes from trees in a violent hippy commune which he was in charge of.

 

[Meltingpot]

I always thought Mustaine falls into the 'would be survivalist' category - hates the govt, but also hates anyone who is 'anti-American' as well. I'd put money on it that he's at least attracted to 9/11 conspiracies/Alex Jones types and if he wasn't such a pussy assed Bay boy he'd be up in Montana whittling punji stakes from trees in a violent hippy commune which he was in charge of.

You could be right. He claimed to have voted for Bill Clinton in 1992, but he seems to have moved to the right since then.

 

[Psychonaut]

found these yesterday - AJFA with enhanced *ORIGINAL* bass



pre-lyric demos are funny 'na na naaa naan nan na na naan nah'