Best Mate Got Mugged

[Dubversion]

Does he have any physical evidence of attack - bumps, cuts etc?

yep. just because he didn't see who hit him on the back of the head and robbed him doesn't mean he wasn't hit on the back of the head and robbed.

What is he "allowed" to report - just a fucking lost property incident?

yep. Police have sent him a "lost in the street" form. They also got some twat to call to discuss how best to take care of yourself when drunk

ETA: So by that logic, a women who has been date-raped in state of inebriation also has no right to report a crime due to being "Sketchy on the details"

precisely. a cop said to him "are you sure you didn't just take a little tumble now, eh?"

which could read as "are you sure you didn't consent and know you're feeling a bit guilty now, eh?"

 

[The Groke]

I hope he isn't going to just let the thing drop - not that I would know what to suggest he does next....

Maybe DetectiveBoy could suggest something?

 

[detective-boy]

my mate who's been mugged has been told he's not allowed to report the mugging as a crime because he was very drunk and sketchy on details.

Who by?

If it's the police, complain to the local Chief Superintendent. INSIST it is reported as an allegation of robbery. What the police then classify it as is a matter for them. Ask for an explanation of (i) why the advice has been given and (ii) what is going to be done about the person who gave it.

If it is Brixton Police Station there has been at least one similar thread on the subject here before. Mention it. Suggest that the police appear to be trying to reduce crime by ignoring it.

(ETA: If it is, perhaps someone with a local interest (editor?) could pull the incidents together and write to the South London Press or something)

 

[agricola]

yep. just because he didn't see who hit him on the back of the head and robbed him doesn't mean he wasn't hit on the back of the head and robbed.

yep. Police have sent him a "lost in the street" form. They also got some twat to call to discuss how best to take care of yourself when drunk

precisely. a cop said to him "are you sure you didn't just take a little tumble now, eh?"

which could read as "are you sure you didn't consent and know you're feeling a bit guilty now, eh?"

If your mate is definate that he was robbed then I suggest that he goes into the local station at once and explains the circumstances to the station officer. If Police were called at the time then it might help to get the CAD number and inform the officer that, while he was drunk at the time of the offence, he isnt now and that he is absolutely sure that he was robbed. Obviously if there has been any useage or attempts on his cards or phone then thats a good indicator to suggest a crime has taken place too.

It would depend on where this happened, but given the prevalance of CCTV in Brixton its possible the offence was caught on camera and they can build an investigation from there, although CCTV is not kept for ever and so he will have to report it as soon as possible. They may even be able to follow your mate from where he was and pick up anyone following him.

I appreciate it may be inconvienient but it will be a lot easier if they dont report it to speak to someone in the CID or at a higher level then and there rather than waiting for them to call your friend back, plus given how busy all of the Lambeth stations can be over a weekend it may take a while for them to get to your friend, especially as its a "late report" (which wouldnt get as quick a response as someone being robbed "right now" would).

If it is Brixton Police Station there has been at least one similar thread on the subject here before. Mention it. Suggest that the police appear to be trying to reduce crime by ignoring it.

Lambeth as a whole is looking at false reporting of street crime and so questions about how the offence happened, where it happened etc should be being asked. There are a lot of false reports being made and these obviously divert Police resources from areas where a real problem is occuring, as well as potentially leading Police to confront and arrest people who are innocent of any crime but who match descriptions given. This might lead to people getting the impression that Police arent taking them seriously by not - as in the past - just taking and recording what is alleged at face value and dispensing a crime report number; that impression is some way wide of the mark.

 

[yellowmonster]

Pissed bloke gets mugged shocker. Sorry cant expect much sympathy from me, now he will bleat at the police, wasting their time.

 

[detective-boy]

...now he will bleat at the police, wasting their time.

aka requiring them to do their job competently, regardless of how he came to be a victim in the first place.

 

[Stobart Stopper]

Pissed bloke gets mugged shocker. Sorry cant expect much sympathy from me, now he will bleat at the police, wasting their time.

Fuckwit.
Often when someone is arrested for street robbery it turns out they have robbed quite a few other people or there are other issues like wanted for bailed to return. Every single robbery should be reported.

 

[madamv]

hey V, tell sparklefish it's Zombie who has the cancer

She called me earlier to say she had spoken to you. Sorry to learn about Zombie babe xx

 

[The Groke]

Pissed bloke gets mugged shocker. Sorry cant expect much sympathy from me, now he will bleat at the police, wasting their time.

I'm sure he couldn't give a fuck whether he has your sympathy or not.

Do fuck off, there's a good chap.

 

[Jessiedog]

Pissed chick gets raped shocker. Sorry cant expect much sympathy from me, now she will bleat at the police, wasting their time.

Yeah. Right.



Woof

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

A friend of ours was extremely drunk leaving a party last week - he staggered off whilst waiting for the taxi we'd called him and vanished into the mist.

One of us got a call a couple of hours later saying he'd been found passed out in Norwood Park.

A group of youths had found him, gone through his pockets, found his mobile, and rather than have away with it, went through his recently dialled numbers, calling them until they got through to someone. They then waited with him till one of us turned up.

A group of hoodie wearing teens to boot! Sometimes people surprise you.

Aww, bless 'em! Lovely! Warms the cockles of the heart!

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

(((Dub's best mate)))

 

[Dubversion]

Pissed bloke gets mugged shocker. Sorry cant expect much sympathy from me, now he will bleat at the police, wasting their time.

well here's hoping some little cunt finds you down a back alley and cuts your throat you callous little fuck.

seriously - do you get a stiffy being such a heartless prick? I rarely wish serious ill on somebody but if anybody does fuck you up i won't shed any tears, fucko.

 

[yellowmonster]

Fuckwit.
Often when someone is arrested for street robbery it turns out they have robbed quite a few other people or there are other issues like wanted for bailed to return. Every single robbery should be reported.

Agreed, report it but assume responsibility for actions.

 

[yellowmonster]

well here's hoping some little cunt finds you down a back alley and cuts your throat you callous little fuck.

seriously - do you get a stiffy being such a heartless prick? I rarely wish serious ill on somebody but if anybody does fuck you up i won't shed any tears, fucko.

And breathe

 

[yellowmonster]

Yeah. Right.



Woof

I object to that.

 

[JHE]

Agreed, report it but assume responsibility for actions.

What a pity the muggers won't be held responsible for their actions.

No, sorry, it's not really their fault. Mugging is like rain - an act of God. If you go out without an umbrella, it's your fault if you get wet.

In your callous, ugly comments, you have half a point, Y-Monster. If you walk around visibly pissed, you are more likely to get robbed. You are an easy target.

Similarly, if you walk around old and frail, you are an easy target. Old people know that. It's one reason many go out less than they'd like.

I despise muggers, not pissed people or frail old people. What about you, Y-Monster?

 

[Jessiedog]

I object to that.

Really?

I bet you don't object to it any more than I fucking object to what you wrote.

What's the fucking difference?



Woof

 

[yellowmonster]

What a pity the muggers won't be held responsible for their actions.

No, sorry, it's not really their fault. Mugging is like rain - an act of God. If you go out without an umbrella, it's your fault if you get wet.

In your callous, ugly comments, you have half a point, Y-Monster. If you walk around visibly pissed, you are more likely to get robbed. You are an easy target.

Similarly, if you walk around old and frail, you are an easy target. Old people know that. It's one reason many go out less than they'd like.

I despise muggers, not pissed people or frail old people. What about you, Y-Monster?

Here we go muddy the waters,now it was a OAP who was raped
Fact of the matter is staggering around Brixton,its not a particularly clever thing to do is it? Especially as its happened to him before ( some mates hes got leaving him to it too).
Doesent make it right and I agree its particularly cowardly. Not much else to say about it is there

 

[The Groke]

Doesent make it right and I agree its particularly cowardly. Not much else to say about it is there

 

[yellowmonster]

From what exactly? Comments still stand.
File this thread with " Left front door open and was robbed" .

 

[Jessiedog]

File this thread with " Left zip open and was raped" .

Woof

 

[yellowmonster]

Woof

I dont think this is the right medium for you to get the help you need, you need professional counselling.

 

[Jessiedog]

I dont think this is the right medium for you to get the help you need, you need professional counselling.

And you need an attitude reajustment.

Woof

 

[yellowmonster]

And you need an attitude reajustment.

Woof

Touche.Sounds painfull hope Im pissed at the time

 

[Jessiedog]

Touche.Sounds painfull hope Im pissed at the time

Seriously, I find your attitude offensive.

It's taken quite a while for peeps to accept that women don't "ask for" rape, y'know?



Woof

 

[pk]

Touche.Sounds painfull hope Im pissed at the time

But by your logic - people who are pissed deserve to be mugged.

You really are a prize twat aren't you?

 

[Dubversion]

some mates hes got leaving him to it too).

you know nothing about why he was on his own, so why not shut the fuck up, trollcunt. Which returning prick are you anyway, you faux-controversial cumstain?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Rocket Romano, if anyone's interested.

 

[Dubversion]

Rocket Romano, if anyone's interested.

why do returning twats always make it so obvious they're returning twats?

some people do come back and get away with it, i guess - but by keeping a low profile. People like Anna Key and Rocket Romano can't help but draw attention to themselves in fucking minutes..