Grandma Death
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Best Lesbıan Fılms?
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Johnny Canuck3
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Phil might be obsessed, but you're too serious.
Johnny Canuck3
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Oh yeah, the movies.
Monster.
Heavenly Creatures.
Monster.
Heavenly Creatures.
Seen the documentary about her? Much better than the drama ımo. Her lawyer ıs unbelıvable--he smokes seven splıffs ın the car on the way to hıs meetıng wıth her (whıle she ıs facıng a death sentence).
Fedayn
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The Nick Broomfield documentary?
Yes. There are two of them actually, both excellent. Obvıously one can't sympathıze wıth a serıal kıller, but she really does seem to have drawn the worst possıble cards ın lıfe and, dare I say ıt, to be a basıcally good person too.
That's so cheeky JC!
This is a subject Sam knows and cares about and she's being genuine!
You OTH, often come across to me as someone fairly content with their devil's advocate/ contrarian persona! Its a rare moment when I think, 'yeah JC2 is really speaking his truth there.'
No big deal of course, but in this case you've got no grounds to call someone with a genuinely held, reasonable opinion 'too serious!'
did you think predator was about peple who like to have sex with aliens? and if so, why?
Johnny Canuck3
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That's so cheeky JC!
This is a subject Sam knows and cares about and she's being genuine!
You OTH, often come across to me as someone fairly content with their devil's advocate/ contrarian persona! Its a rare moment when I think, 'yeah JC2 is really speaking his truth there.'
No big deal of course, but in this case you've got no grounds to call someone with a genuinely held, reasonable opinion 'too serious!'
Which subject: lesbian movies?
Dwyer has started all these sex threads, and he speaks his mind. I'm not sure if that qualifies him as a psychotic troll. And I'm not sure why that label when applied by sam, is somehow more worthy of our consideration.
I often play the devil's advocate, because after all this time, I'm more interested in how people come to hold beliefs, and why. I'm more interested in challenging the 'methodology of belief', if I can call it that, than the beliefs themselves. There's nothing I enjoy more than coming across someone who believes different from me, and who came by those beliefs honestly, because that's a person I can learn from. I can't learn anything from true believers.
Nope
I can't believe you don't see it in the film - it screamed lesbian to me. I first watched it with my mum, and tried desperately not to show it on my face!
It is made much more explicit in the book though - you should read it.
Johnny Canuck3
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What's to say?No comment, Melinda?
You make me smile loads; I go out of my way to read your posts, but its obvious as fuck that most of the time you are majorly taking the piss. You love the flak, being assailed from all sides and fighting your way out. Doesnt appeal to me personally, but each to their own
I prefer when you do your forensic analysis shit over something genuine, even if you end up so angry you get out of order. E.g. the BK Indian doctor - and Mation's response threads), they were clusterfucks, but you got truthful on those treads and it showed. People responded to it.
Goading people into revealling how they click isnt the best way to communicate! Challenging why people believe what they believe is fair enough, but you have to bring some truth to the table too.
Sam was being real and speaking from truth and that gets automatic respect from me.
scifisam
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What's to say?
You make me smile loads; I go out of my way to read your posts, but its obvious as fuck that most of the time you are majorly taking the piss. You love the flak, being assailed from all sides and fighting your way out. Doesnt appeal to me personally, but each to their own
I prefer when you do your forensic analysis shit over something genuine, even if you end up so angry you get out of order. E.g. the BK Indian doctor - and Mation's response threads), they were clusterfucks, but you got truthful on those treads and it showed. People responded to it.
Goading people into revealling how they click isnt the best way to communicate! Challenging why people believe what they believe is fair enough, but you have to bring some truth to the table too.
Sam was being real and speaking from truth and that gets automatic respect from me.
Thanks, to the last bit.
I agree with the rest, too. Johnny's a pretty good person to argue with most of the time.
Johnny Canuck3
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What's to say?
You make me smile loads; I go out of my way to read your posts, but its obvious as fuck that most of the time you are majorly taking the piss. You love the flak, being assailed from all sides and fighting your way out. Doesnt appeal to me personally, but each to their own
I prefer when you do your forensic analysis shit over something genuine, even if you end up so angry you get out of order. E.g. the BK Indian doctor - and Mation's response threads), they were clusterfucks, but you got truthful on those treads and it showed. People responded to it.
Goading people into revealling how they click isnt the best way to communicate! Challenging why people believe what they believe is fair enough, but you have to bring some truth to the table too.
Sam was being real and speaking from truth and that gets automatic respect from me.
With respect, sam was speaking her opinion. As do you and I.
Also, I might play devil's advocate, but I don't speak untruths as to what I think. Why would I?
Johnny Canuck3
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Thanks, to the last bit.
I agree with the rest, too. Johnny's a pretty good person to argue with most of the time.
Shucks.
I hope you realize that a good part of the reason I go after you as much as I do, is because I think you're intelligent enough to give back a reasoned argument. You're one of the people who will say things at times, that I have to sit and think about before I reply.
Thanks, to the last bit.
No problem. I dig what you have to say on the boards, I was just responding to that. I dig him too.
Johnny Canuck3
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I dig him too.
You ain't no slouch either, but I get an impression of deep cynicism from you.
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Shit JC, you're gonna have trouble getting that big head through the doors...........
Sometimes JC annoys the shit out of me but i firmly believe this place would be a poorer place without him !
I loves a good heated argument and it can be a little mono-thought here at times..........
Sometimes JC annoys the shit out of me but i firmly believe this place would be a poorer place without him !
I loves a good heated argument and it can be a little mono-thought here at times..........
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No 'Fried Green Tomatoes'?
For shame
One of my favourite films and books of all time
Oh yes - I reckon that's my favouritest lezza film of all time.
'Go Fish' is good, too.
Johnny Canuck3
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Shit JC, you're gonna have trouble getting that big head through the doors...........
Sometimes JC annoys the shit out of me but i firmly believe this place would be a poorer place without him !
D
I can honestly say that you've never annoyed me.
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Nope
I can't believe you don't see it in the film - it screamed lesbian to me. I first watched it with my mum, and tried desperately not to show it on my face!
It is made much more explicit in the book though - you should read it.
Yep. As I said earlier, the same is true of "Thelma and Louise" too. They couldn't explicitly show them actually having sex in a mainstream movie twenty years ago, but they sure as hell communicated it implicitly.
From the very beginning Hollywood invented an entire Gay Code to communicate that same-sex relationships were going on without actually showing it. Usually only gay people would pick up on the signs. Gore Vidal was a particularly witty practitioner of this art.
Fedayn
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Most famously in Ben Hur? The 'in every way' scene between Hur and Masada?!
Ain't there a view that the Joe Chandler storyline is a gay couple without the sex?
Johnny Canuck3
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You silver tongued devil you
And as for my big head, I guess I am what I am. Was what I said conceited? One thing I know, discussing here over the past few years, has made me reassess a lot of ideas I'd safely tucked away as accepted truths. I think at some age, there's a tendency to believe you've thought about a lot of things, and the answers you came to are nicely pigeonholed, to be brought out when necessary. I think I was getting there, maybe.
But being here, having my ideas constantly challenged, has meant that I've had to keep thinking about a lot of these things. For me, it's been an invaluable experience.
I don't quite want to fossilize in place just yet.
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