Best FPS Ever?

[debaser]

How would you make a ground breaking FPS then? What's left to do?

There are FPS games still breaking ground, Left 4 Dead and Mirrors edge most recently, though mirrors edge weakly so. I'd like to see a return to the old arena format myself theres scope left there More could be done with somthing like Mirrors Edge as well a platform fps crossover..

Other than that the pure FPS is probably on the way out especially so when people are calling 'X times more realistic war shooter 8' one of the best of the genre.

I imagine eventaully the single player games will just get absorbed by the RPG FPS hybrids, which is no bad thing as they are better games and Pure FPS will be left to the proper coop and multiplayer games such as TF2 and Left 4 Dead.

New Stalker and Deus Ex 3 coming up (though I don't hold out much hope for Deus Ex 3, regenerating health pansies).

 

[debaser]

heres an idea then - sandbox pure fps multiplayer, yeah yeah!?

Like Q3 + Stalker: Clear Sky's base taking mechanic but working. That'd kick ass.

 

[Orang Utan]

Whilst there might be an argument made for Fallout you are on a losing battle with Resident Evil, it's totally 3rd person.

how so?

 

[ChrisFilter]

how so?

You can see the dude you're controller. 1st-person games, by definition, are those where you see through the eyes of the character. In RE you look over the shoulder.

 

[Orang Utan]

ah right, i'm sure you can toggle between the two though

 

[ChrisFilter]

ah right, i'm sure you can toggle between the two though

I dunno about 5, but you can't in any of the others.

 

[Orang Utan]

my memory must be playing tricks with me

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Alternatively you could see it as the ultimate perfect form of a Call of Duty game that builds on vast amounts of previous experience to build the greatest fps game ever made. Its not meant to offer an innovation, simply to do what has been done before but better, which it does

I'd agree with you. I think there were variations in the earlier iterations of CoD, with some better than others. 4 gives the perfect blend.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

first person shooter - not necessarily war games are they?

True.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

aren't games like fallout 3 and resident evil both rpg and fps?

I've never played fallout 3. I consider resident evil to be a fps more than an rpg, but that's just my opinion. I don't play rpgs, but from what I've observed, I always thought that for one thing, they involved more interaction between the characters besides just the killing.

 

[Callum91]

Surely the clue to what a FPS is is in the title? FIRST person shooter? No?

 

[Orang Utan]

i guess i didn't think about it much - i just thought it referred to wondering around shooting things - it seems a rather arbitrary distinction to make.

 

[Callum91]

i guess i didn't think about it much - i just thought it referred to wondering around shooting things - it seems a rather arbitrary distinction to make.

I wasn't having a go at you there , just to me a FPS is exactly that , a first person shooter. Bioshock is an FPS , Resident Evil isn't and Fallout is just confusing.

 

[Orang Utan]

it seems weird that such an arbitrary feature has become the definition of a whole genre though
is there a third person shooter genre? many games allow you to toggle between the two.

 

[Callum91]

it seems weird that such an arbitrary feature has become the definition of a whole genre though
is there a third person shooter genre? many games allow you to toggle between the two.

Dead Space? If I remember correctly it's entirely third person.

 

[Orang Utan]

it is, but it seems odd to distinguish between that game and, say, half-life 2, as they have much more features in common than just the point of view it's 'shot' from

 

[Callum91]

Where would you draw the line then? Would you draw a line at all?

 

[Orang Utan]

i'm not sure i would - i'm beginning to question the usefulness of such a definition.
and don't get me started on rpgs!

 

[Callum91]

i'm not sure i would - i'm beginning to question the usefulness of such a definition.
and don't get me started on rpgs!

Do you like or dislike RPG's?

 

[Orang Utan]

Do you like or dislike RPG's?

i like them, but am confused by the definition as there seems to be an overlap in genre classifications.
i'm guessing this is due to a legacy of videogames that i'm not familiar with - i've never played any games on the pc, which my flatmate tells me is where the term fps is most usefully applied

 

[mitochondria]

Doom, ffs.

I also vaguely remember first ever game on PC that I played. It was called 'the ghost' or something like that and you walked around in vector labirynth on amber screen, escaping evil. Not sure if you shot anything so probably doesn't qualify. I was ten and had c64 but this was way different than c64 games.

 

[debaser]

i guess i didn't think about it much - i just thought it referred to wondering around shooting things - it seems a rather arbitrary distinction to make.

I think the distinction made a lot more sense back around the time of Tomb Raider and the older Resident Evils/Alone in the dark type where they where either more platform/jumping puzzle based or where the camera was in a fixed position in relation to the area rather than the character. They all just follow from directly over the shoulder these days ala Gears of War or Dead space where I guess there really is no differnce between that and a FPS.

 

[Boycey]

back in the day you'd have 3rd person scrolling, 3rd person platform and 1st person shooters- all completely different. i'd agree that the game mechanics of 3d 3rd person shooters are now much more like 1st person but there's still usually quite a difference in the way the game feels (to me at least). anyway, the distinction is there and there's no way you can sneak RE in there

 

[grit]

its Quake, first engine to ever do 3d.

 

[fieryjack]

...

 

[Cloud]

Multiplayer co-op doom on a network... long before internet gaming

Involved lots of tables and about four hours to setup but it was amazing. We would have the whole house full of PC's.

 

[bi0boy]

Wolfenstein was better than Doom

Serious Sam was the most enjoyable.

 

[ajk]

Rise of the Triad

 

[ChrisC]

Half Life 1 - 2
Duke Nukem 3D

For single player.

AvP 2
Team Fortress 2

For multiplayer.

 

[JE:5]

I'm well into Far Cry 2 online, the story mode is boring as fuck though.