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Best FPS Ever?

Wolfenstein, then Shadow Warrior, Quake, Half-Life and then kind of lost interest on the genre because every third title was a WWII shooter. Would consider a couple of Star Wars titles (Jedi Outcast and Galactic Battlegrounds 2), but they're mostly oriented towards the 3rd person action game thing.

If we're extending to hybrids, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex join in. Which reminds me, in a few weeks I should be able to play System Shock 2 again :D
 
those games look too hard

not really, a little more technical than some of the ones you mentioned but lots more fun :)

seriously CoD4 is a must play for anyone even remotely interested in FPS games. borrow it from someone and prove me wrong.
 
er, yes they are. you play in the first person and you shoot people. is there a more precise definition that i should be aware of?

Resident Evil is third person save the use of scoped weapons and Fallout 3 is primarily an rpg with a small amount of shooter elements whilst the majority of shooting uses a pseudo turn based system based on leveling and action points.
 
As decent as COD4 is I don't really get why it's soo rated, it's not like a ground breaking title in the way the first one was, nor has it much depth to it's single player campaign.

Bioshock and Mass Effect were much more impressive to me.
 
is an rpg mutually exclusive from a fps?

No not exactly, I'd say Bioshock is a fps with RPG elements, likewise Stalker, but Fallout 3 is much more an RPG with elements of FPS.

It's a bit like calling Wayne Rooney a left winger cos he's played a few games out there.
 
As decent as COD4 is I don't really get why it's soo rated, it's not like a ground breaking title in the way the first one was, nor has it much depth to it's single player campaign.

Bioshock and Mass Effect were much more impressive to me.

Those games were hardly pure blood FPS, Cod4 makes your eye balls pop out :eek: and delivers quality multiplayer that caters for a variety of play styles, I don't think many people play the game for SP either.
 
Those games were hardly pure blood FPS, Cod4 makes your eye balls pop out :eek: and delivers quality multiplayer that caters for a variety of play styles, I don't think many people play the game for SP either.

I'm not comparing them simply on a FPS basis, I just think they offered something interesting and new whereas Call of Duty 4 was just the same shit we've been getting for years but a bit snazzier. Call of Duty and me shared our 'holy shit' moment back with the first game on my 9600xt, as Stukas strafed the banks of the Volga, by the time of Modern Warfare it was nothing new to me.

It does seem to be console kiddies that have such a hard on for Call of Duty 4, you'd almost be forgiven for thinking consoles players had never had the opportunity to play a decent fps before.
 
AvP 1 and 2
Half-Life 1 and 2
F.E.A.R
Doom
Wolfenstein 3D
Thief, if it counts.
Unreal

AvP 2 that was shit scarey game, excellent choice.

Both Half Life's are amazing, the first because of how fresh it all was and the enemie ai, whilst the sequel is just awesomely presented and polished, a really great cinematic game.

Doom goes without saying.

FEAR had great AI but the story was shit and the level design and settings were repetitively dull.
 
As decent as COD4 is I don't really get why it's soo rated, it's not like a ground breaking title in the way the first one was, nor has it much depth to it's single player campaign.

Bioshock and Mass Effect were much more impressive to me.

horses for courses, though i liked bioshock i found a bit one dimensional. once you've seen one art nouveau hall full of mutants and a diving suit with drills you've seen them all. i found the singleplayer on cod4 fucking awesome if over way too quickly. i particularly like the way 2 player characters got "written out" :D
 
I'm not comparing them simply on a FPS basis, I just think they offered something interesting and new whereas Call of Duty 4 was just the same shit we've been getting for years but a bit snazzier. Call of Duty and me shared our 'holy shit' moment back with the first game on my 9600xt, as Stukas strafed the banks of the Volga, by the time of Modern Warfare it was nothing new to me.

It does seem to be console kiddies that have such a hard on for Call of Duty 4, you'd almost be forgiven for thinking consoles players had never had the opportunity to play a decent fps before.

Alternatively you could see it as the ultimate perfect form of a Call of Duty game that builds on vast amounts of previous experience to build the greatest fps game ever made. Its not meant to offer an innovation, simply to do what has been done before but better, which it does :eek:
 
Alternatively you could see it as the ultimate perfect form of a Call of Duty game that builds on vast amounts of previous experience to build the greatest fps game ever made. Its not meant to offer an innovation, simply to do what has been done before but better, which it does :eek:

I'm with revol68 here, same shit, better graphics.

It didn't really improve much from CoD2. It was just like playing through a new series of 24 in more ways than one and both being severely flogged dead horses.

and if we're talking 'best fps' here surely it has to be ground breaking. You can't move for polished shooters on consoles these days, Halo 3, as bland and boring as it was is another one of these "perfect form" improvements, like it or not its a well done fps game just not in the slightest bit interesting.. All these new console shooters are the equivalent of Hollywood blockbuster remakes of better films.

Even its multi-player is no real improvement on counter strikes or CoD2. Don't get me wrong mind Its a good game, its not a great game.

I wonder if mirrors edge should get a mention, or does that get lumped in with portal?
 
I'm with revol68 here, same shit, better graphics.

It didn't really improve much from CoD2. It was just like playing through a new series of 24 in more ways than one and both being severely flogged dead horses.

and if we're talking 'best fps' here surely it has to be ground breaking. You can't move for polished shooters on consoles these days, Halo 3, as bland and boring as it was is another one of these "perfect form" improvements, like it or not its a well done fps game just not in the slightest bit interesting.. All these new console shooters are the equivalent of Hollywood blockbuster remakes of better films.

Even its multi-player is no real improvement on counter strikes or CoD2. Don't get me wrong mind Its a good game, its not a great game.

I wonder if mirrors edge should get a mention, or does that get lumped in with portal?

How would you make a ground breaking FPS then? What's left to do?
 
not played but but im saying no. a) because it didn't have monkeys and b) im fairly the half life 2 gravity engine thingy hasn't been invented yet.

I don't think its actually possible to make an original straight up fps game.


dave
 
How would you make a ground breaking FPS then? What's left to do?

Well no one is asked for something completely out there, but games like STALKER set out do something properly interesting albeit in beautifully flawed way.

Bioshock whilst perhaps not having the greatest shooting mechanics still brought some great ideas to the table, the political and literary subtext to it was particularly impressive, the art deco style, the Andrew Ryan (Ayn Rand) figure, the transgressive nature of capitalism and the how it removes all stable and solid groundings, it's hardly an accident that this free market, objectivist dystopia is under water.

Call of Duty 4 was a gung ho piece of shit in it's story, like something they found in a sixteen year old Tom Clancy's waste paper basket, it was dull in the extreme.

Though I have to say the new trailer for Modern Warfare 2 looks bloody impressive, the voice over about Kaine and blood on the soil and how everywhere America has waged war and the blood of the fallen has screamed out against it but perhaps they are deaf to these screams as the soil has not been their own. If they have the balls to carry this more nuanced and critical approach through it could be excellent.

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