Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
what's CoD?
what's CoD?

oh, that's a war game....pffff
those games look too hard

er, yes they are. you play in the first person and you shoot people. is there a more precise definition that i should be aware of?
is an rpg mutually exclusive from a fps?
As decent as COD4 is I don't really get why it's soo rated, it's not like a ground breaking title in the way the first one was, nor has it much depth to it's single player campaign.
Bioshock and Mass Effect were much more impressive to me.
and delivers quality multiplayer that caters for a variety of play styles, I don't think many people play the game for SP either.oh, that's a war game....pffff

is an rpg mutually exclusive from a fps?
Those games were hardly pure blood FPS, Cod4 makes your eye balls pop outand delivers quality multiplayer that caters for a variety of play styles, I don't think many people play the game for SP either.
AvP 1 and 2
Half-Life 1 and 2
F.E.A.R
Doom
Wolfenstein 3D
Thief, if it counts.
Unreal
As decent as COD4 is I don't really get why it's soo rated, it's not like a ground breaking title in the way the first one was, nor has it much depth to it's single player campaign.
Bioshock and Mass Effect were much more impressive to me.

I'm not comparing them simply on a FPS basis, I just think they offered something interesting and new whereas Call of Duty 4 was just the same shit we've been getting for years but a bit snazzier. Call of Duty and me shared our 'holy shit' moment back with the first game on my 9600xt, as Stukas strafed the banks of the Volga, by the time of Modern Warfare it was nothing new to me.
It does seem to be console kiddies that have such a hard on for Call of Duty 4, you'd almost be forgiven for thinking consoles players had never had the opportunity to play a decent fps before.

Alternatively you could see it as the ultimate perfect form of a Call of Duty game that builds on vast amounts of previous experience to build the greatest fps game ever made. Its not meant to offer an innovation, simply to do what has been done before but better, which it does![]()
I'm with revol68 here, same shit, better graphics.
It didn't really improve much from CoD2. It was just like playing through a new series of 24 in more ways than one and both being severely flogged dead horses.
and if we're talking 'best fps' here surely it has to be ground breaking. You can't move for polished shooters on consoles these days, Halo 3, as bland and boring as it was is another one of these "perfect form" improvements, like it or not its a well done fps game just not in the slightest bit interesting.. All these new console shooters are the equivalent of Hollywood blockbuster remakes of better films.
Even its multi-player is no real improvement on counter strikes or CoD2. Don't get me wrong mind Its a good game, its not a great game.
I wonder if mirrors edge should get a mention, or does that get lumped in with portal?
How would you make a ground breaking FPS then? What's left to do?
Monkeys in zero-gravity space.
dave
What did you think 'fps's were, anyway?![]()
I don't know if they have to be, but it seems to be that way pretty much. My kid likes rpgs, but he's not so keen on fps.
I can't think of a true crossover game.
How would you make a ground breaking FPS then? What's left to do?
aren't games like fallout 3 and resident evil both rpg and fps?