Best CRPGs Ever...

[upsidedownwalrus]

This was a good game. Only played the demo, but was very addictive.

 

[debaser]

Because the Zelda games aren't RPGs.

You have no choices to make as to who you are or how you approach the game - they are all painfully linear and contrived and have become more so throughout the series.

Not to say they are bad games of course, but they are "action/adventure" titles rather than RPGs

WRPGS > JRPGS in the RPG sense, still good games though. Throughly looking forward to the new Final Fantasy.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Zelda is more puzzle/arcade/adventure IMO.

 

[YouSir]

Fallouts 1 & 2, compulsive replay value and some of the best characters I've ever seen in any computer game, a real sense of atmosphere to both. Fallout 3 was alright, nothing special and not really in the feel of the series to be honest. There are a couple of community mods which have been in the works for years which are supposed to reinvent Fallout 2 though, always thought they'd be a more true follow up for the purists.

 

[Infidel Castro]

Breath of Fire III & IV and FF VII are my favouritests. been looking for a decent RPG for my mobile phone. I love the Japanese style ones.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

4) Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
This is the best (IMO) isometric style RPG ever made for the PC. Tolkein meets Steampunk. Beautiful scenery and setting (looks decent enough even for an old game!), the choice between traditional RPG magic or technology, and the musical score has to be the best of any game ever made. Freeform play style, with definite impact on the ongoing story (including locations you can freely move about in without harassment) based on decisions you make during play and character development.

currently playing the fuck out of this at the moment

on my laptop which is a bit underpowered so delving into my gog.com playlist

i recently really enjoyed the shadowrun reboot so wanted to get some more of the same goodness

i first booted up fallout 1 but it wasn't quite grabbing me and although i have heard so many wonderful things about planescape: torment i just was in the mood for something a little diffrent

this really hit the spot

it's not all sunshine and lollipops. the way you move about is a little frustrating and you will be begging for a zoom in and out. the graphics are a little dated especially in cities where everything is very boxy. i think you may also want to read up on characters builds first too.

however

this is a proper rpg game. you can spend hours wandering round a city talking to everyone and then spend an equal amount of time punching rats in the face in it's sewers and both feel equally rewarding.

the slight steampunk victoriana feel to the thing gives it a real edge of involvement.

i'm roleplaying as a high class lady who after the crash decided to toughen up. i started off with average stats with a slight boost to intelligence and charisma with a point in melee (she has done fencing) and kited myself out with a posh dress and rapier. i'm now maxed out melee and dodge with 18 dex and 12 str and a couple of point in lock pick and the single most annoying thing that has happened to me is that my dress was destroyed in an explosion and i have yet to find another good one. i had to settle on a robe then a rustic dress. the next time i hit the big city i am going strait to the tailor.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

also... magnus died while i did pollocks quest in the boil


i picked up his quest by accident after exploring the sewers


i waited till after clearing the sweres and leveling a bit but i hit one bad section and lost him.


and i tried to get him back. i had res scrolls n shit but i coludn't get it to work


so...... fuck it. he was kinda annoying any how. really slow.


when i got into a pinch with virgil thats when i pulled out all the stops to m,ake him live. at least he has a bit more charactor



but all this is so very proper rpg

 

[golightly]

Thanks for the review. This is one of the games that I was only vaguely aware of, but it does look like something I could really get into. I may give it a go as I reckon I can afford $5.99.

 

[Stigmata]

I'm also into Fallout: New Vegas now in a big way. The Dead Money expansion is absolutely brilliant in a macabre Chris Avellone/Planescape way

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Still haven't found a new dress

 

[Epona]

currently playing the fuck out of this at the moment

on my laptop which is a bit underpowered so delving into my gog.com playlist

i recently really enjoyed the shadowrun reboot so wanted to get some more of the same goodness

i first booted up fallout 1 but it wasn't quite grabbing me and although i have heard so many wonderful things about planescape: torment i just was in the mood for something a little diffrent

this really hit the spot

it's not all sunshine and lollipops. the way you move about is a little frustrating and you will be begging for a zoom in and out. the graphics are a little dated especially in cities where everything is very boxy. i think you may also want to read up on characters builds first too.

however

this is a proper rpg game. you can spend hours wandering round a city talking to everyone and then spend an equal amount of time punching rats in the face in it's sewers and both feel equally rewarding.

the slight steampunk victoriana feel to the thing gives it a real edge of involvement.

i'm roleplaying as a high class lady who after the crash decided to toughen up. i started off with average stats with a slight boost to intelligence and charisma with a point in melee (she has done fencing) and kited myself out with a posh dress and rapier. i'm now maxed out melee and dodge with 18 dex and 12 str and a couple of point in lock pick and the single most annoying thing that has happened to me is that my dress was destroyed in an explosion and i have yet to find another good one. i had to settle on a robe then a rustic dress. the next time i hit the big city i am going strait to the tailor.

Arcanum is the absolute dogs bollocks, I love the Steampunk vibe, I love the character development (the 'background' options are just great), and the whole tech vs. magick thing is so well done both in terms of your character as an individual and his/her interaction with the world, availability of quests/companions/equipment etc. - it's quirky and individual, and a breath of fresh air if you want a change from the AD&D CRPGs of that era. Yeah there are some flaws (aren't there always?) but it gets it right in so many ways.

The reason your resurrection spell doesn't work on Magnus is because his tech score is too high, magic won't work on him. If you are also a tech character, that's a double-whammy (not that it would have worked on him anyway, I suggest a reload if you want to keep Magnus - I would, because he's great if your character is Tech, if you are going the Magick route then don't bother).

Edit: because my memory is rusty and I am trying to give correct advice: The Tech equivalent to a resurrection spell is either a device called The Reanimator (which you won't have the schematic for yet), or you can also get Restore Life vials/pills/device (can't quite recall), they are Tech (Herbalist discipline - and there is a Herbalist in Tarant, she shares a shop with the bloke who sells gears/filaments etc. I just looked it up and it's Geoffrey's Gears on the corner right next to the telegraph office) not magic. Don't even bother trying to use a scroll on or near Magnus - at best, you'll just waste the scroll. Oh and if you are going Tech yourself, then scrolls will eventually become vendor trash anyway. If you are going Magick, then recruit companions who are at the very least neutral, but preferably leaning towards Magick themselves. A mixed party of Tech/Magick does not work well at all, it's just not tenable in the long run what with the whole 'proximity to one canceling out the other' thing.

Edit again: If you're coming into Tarant from The Boil, then Thurston's Fashion Palace is a few doors up from Geoffrey's Gears/Anna's Herbals, so you could pick yourself out something nice to wear on the way. Nothing like sticking it to the undead hordes in a crypt whilst wearing a pretty dress with a bustle.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I guessed it was that. my heal spell fizzled on him 2 out of 3 times. i just had to keep trying it as virgil never bothers to and the fucker never seemed to drink the health potions i gave him.

in the end i gave all my scrolls to virgil as i thought it might have been my low magic rating stopping things. lucky i did because i got taken in the next fight and the rez scroll saved me. virgil died too but i had a herbalists res potion i used on him.

my character is somewhat neutral in build. i have 5 points in lock pick for tech and one point in magic for heal and thats it. everything else is physical. 5 point in dodge 5 in melee 20 dex 12 str.

i'm a bit of a glass cannon i hit hard and i dodge a lot but when i get hit i really get hit and my constitution is only 9. gonna put a few more points in that next and raise my strength too.


Thurston's Fashion Palace has tons of male fashion items like smoking jackets but the only dress is a maidservants one. That simply will not do.

 

[Epona]

If you're neutral with a Tech party then there's a recruitable Tech herbalist somewhere (I think her name is Jayna?) who can make Tech healing stuff for free from all the plants you find around, and iirc will heal Tech characters in combat using bandages which you can buy from Tech shops. Like a lot of recruitable npcs though, she'll only join you if you are Tech yourself (some others will only join if you are Magick). You need to go one way or the other yourself to recruit many of the characters. I think Virgil will stay with you whatever your leanings, and there's a neutral half-orc you meet fairly early on ithe game who is a good meat-shield and can get some benefit from either Tech or Magick stuff.

Edit: If you have patched your game, Elegant Dress has a 10% chance of being in stock at urban tailor shops (Tarant & Ashbury) every day, so keep checking back at Thurstons whenever you go past.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I have her. she isn't too bad but is one you have to manage.

after doing the dodge and melee mastery quests and getting about three dresses destroyed in the mines i have looted the dickhead knights plate armour and am wearing that while out and about and changing back into a dress when in town.