The Pious Pawn
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The fa should not do anything about this incident , they brought these stupid rules in let them stand by them .
Ben Thatcher tries to kill Mendez !!
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I'm quite shocked by the amount of people wanting to see police involvement.
Police involvement and lawsuits is a terrible route to go down in professional football.
The FA are idiots
The Police are idiots
and you people want these two bodies responsible for deciding what football challenges do and do not warrant a prison sentence?
you people are idiots - be careful what you wish for, but after the joke that was the imprsioning of duncan ferguson its disapointing to see so many people with such short memories
Police involvement and lawsuits is a terrible route to go down in professional football.
The FA are idiots
The Police are idiots
and you people want these two bodies responsible for deciding what football challenges do and do not warrant a prison sentence?
you people are idiots - be careful what you wish for, but after the joke that was the imprsioning of duncan ferguson its disapointing to see so many people with such short memories
lighterthief
Well-Known Member
I'd argue that it wasn't a 'challenge'.Chorlton said:
lighterthief said:
and judging from the hysterical mob on these two threads so would quite a few on here.
And you want these sort of incidents dealt with by the police as GBH i presume?
just stop and think for a moment will you?
think about the ramifications that will have for the game as a whole - think about what a ridiculous non-contact, lawyer-led farce the whole game will become?
be honest with yourself - is that challenge of thatchers the worst you have seen? It will not even be the worst you see this season i guarantee it - Its a bad challenge - a pre-meditatied bad challenge - ban the player, fine him whatever - but keep the fucken police out of it
But it doesn't bring us any further down a path at all, merely to the same spot we were already at.
The only way we could possibly embark on a slippery slope on this would be to let Thatcher off. To say that assault, and that was assault not a 'challenge', is acceptable as long as it’s perpetrated by people who just happen to be on a football pitch.
And I’m all for a contact sport by the way but seriously come on. He left the guy unconscious and in hospital. It’s absurd to say that dangerous play of that level is to be kept within the game.
The only way we could possibly embark on a slippery slope on this would be to let Thatcher off. To say that assault, and that was assault not a 'challenge', is acceptable as long as it’s perpetrated by people who just happen to be on a football pitch.
And I’m all for a contact sport by the way but seriously come on. He left the guy unconscious and in hospital. It’s absurd to say that dangerous play of that level is to be kept within the game.
Bonfirelight
Crocodile
i agree with chorlton to be honest.
The FA need to revise their 'not get involved once the ref makes his call' position and ban Thatcher for a while, but its not really a police matter imo.
What happens in the game should stay in the game.
That said, if theoretically Thatcher smuggled a gun onto a pitch and shot Mendes dead that would obviouolsy be a police matter, and im not sure where in my head the line is..
The FA need to revise their 'not get involved once the ref makes his call' position and ban Thatcher for a while, but its not really a police matter imo.
What happens in the game should stay in the game.
That said, if theoretically Thatcher smuggled a gun onto a pitch and shot Mendes dead that would obviouolsy be a police matter, and im not sure where in my head the line is..
christonabike
Elm Park Bencher
If Bowyer got charged then so should Thatcher
By the way, I think neither should be charged
The FA needs to sort their house out, clueless fucks
By the way, I think neither should be charged
The FA needs to sort their house out, clueless fucks
christonabike
Elm Park Bencher
Only happens every now and again
If we got the police involeved you'd be amazed what people would start saying is assault
People try to do you all the time on the football pitch, would you report all of these incidents as "attempted assault"
If we got the police involeved you'd be amazed what people would start saying is assault
People try to do you all the time on the football pitch, would you report all of these incidents as "attempted assault"
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Yeah, next we'll be charging boxers for GBH.
Chorlton said:
Ferguson didn't get jailed for attacking another player. He was already on a suspended sentence due to a drink driving conviction as I recall. He then assaulted an opponent whilst playing for Rangers and got done for it and locked up. I'm repeating myself from another thread but assault is assault, wherever it happens. Hypethetically, if Mendes went in to a coma and died would you you still call it a bad challenge?
It's way more than a bad challenge. They weren't even jumping for the ball which would offer some justification for the use of the elbow.
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=412057&CPID=8&clid=43&lid=2&title=Ben+makes+Mendes+apology
Dear Pedro
Sorry for trying to break your neck during a football match. Hope you get better soon. Most players will kick you to gain advantage but I don't fuck around. I go straight for the juglar. Nothing personal. I'm just a dirty cunt and hey, that's football innit?
All the best
Ben
Dear Pedro
Sorry for trying to break your neck during a football match. Hope you get better soon. Most players will kick you to gain advantage but I don't fuck around. I go straight for the juglar. Nothing personal. I'm just a dirty cunt and hey, that's football innit?
All the best
Ben
Blackmushroom
New Member
I'm all for the law getting involved. Yes there would a few more lawsuits, but maybe thats a good thing. It would make a few "hardmen" think twice about the things they do on the pitch. If the game changes because of this, it'll only be for the better.
Football's not a special case. It shouldn't receive exemption from the laws that everyone else is subject to.
Football's not a special case. It shouldn't receive exemption from the laws that everyone else is subject to.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
It's not the first time this has happened, even in pre-season he collapsed a players lung with an elbow, to me this doesn't come under sporting incident, I'd charge him with gbh.
christonabike said:Only happens every now and again
If we got the police involeved you'd be amazed what people would start saying is assault
People try to do you all the time on the football pitch, would you report all of these incidents as "attempted assault"
But the point I was making is that the police already do get involved for on-field instances. Duncan Ferguson has already been mentioned in this thread as an example of this. You can't say 'oh it's going to ruin the game' when this is a situation that's existed for a number of years and has had absolutely no affect on football so far.
Jorum
Well-Known Member
It's an interesting point. What level of risk or violence is accepted if you are a professional sportsman?
What can you during a sporting activity that you couldn't do "on the street"?
Obviously a boxer is operating within a set of rules that allows for and manages a certain level of violence. So boxers can't charge each other with GBH, even though on the street it would be.
Then again if a boxer went apeshit and kicked the crap out of a downed opponent (or bit part of his ear off) I assume his opponent could call for GBH as it is behaviour outside the rules and accepted behaviour of the sport.
It is not something a boxer should expect to happen or "signs up for".
A footballer or rugby player also accepts a certain level of violence, but at a much lower level than a boxer say.
It would probably also be assumed that much of this violence would be "accidental" or "incidental".
I think in this case the level of violence is obviously premeditated, and far more serious than any football player should be reasonably expected to experience or accept.
If Thatcher had hit him like that in the street Mendez would be quite right to press charges for GBH.
So question is how much does them both being footballers make it more acceptable behaviour?
What can you during a sporting activity that you couldn't do "on the street"?
Obviously a boxer is operating within a set of rules that allows for and manages a certain level of violence. So boxers can't charge each other with GBH, even though on the street it would be.
Then again if a boxer went apeshit and kicked the crap out of a downed opponent (or bit part of his ear off) I assume his opponent could call for GBH as it is behaviour outside the rules and accepted behaviour of the sport.
It is not something a boxer should expect to happen or "signs up for".
A footballer or rugby player also accepts a certain level of violence, but at a much lower level than a boxer say.
It would probably also be assumed that much of this violence would be "accidental" or "incidental".
I think in this case the level of violence is obviously premeditated, and far more serious than any football player should be reasonably expected to experience or accept.
If Thatcher had hit him like that in the street Mendez would be quite right to press charges for GBH.
So question is how much does them both being footballers make it more acceptable behaviour?
It's a men's game. Stop whinging.
