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Being branded a 'pedo' for carrying a camera

Teenagers taking the piss, innit?

"It" is beyond "That"..... it is a Cultural Movement of fear and Suspicion created for the use of, and dilligence through, a hand-wringing perception of Panopticonism.

"You want safety for your kids? :)"

"Yes We Do!!!! :cool:"

"Go fuck a pedo(sick) for us and we'll get on with the more important things like Proflict. Spice Grease My Thighs Power. Jizza Jizza . Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.:)"
 
Come to think of it, the very first time I went out with a digital SLR I had some nutter come up and ask me if I had taken pictures of his daughter on her bike (who was about 200 m away at the time and facing away from me). Luckily, it hasn't continued like that!

I think people use this peadophile thing as an excuse to vent and get "offended". To any sane normal person it was clearly obvious (or at least extremely unlikely) you'd be photographing his daughter. But it's more than likely that he either a) believes all this hype in the tabloids and is therefore stupid or b) is angry about something else and decided to wrap his sad frustration in a supposedly righteous attack on you. Either way he and others like him can piss off as far as I'm concerned. Sad wankers.

Where do you all live? I never encounter kids like this round here.
 
When we were on the Brixton Mural walk, taking pictures of one of the murals, a mother came sprinting across the park to demand that we not take photos of her kids :(

I really hate this attitude, and I'd usually respond by deliberately pointing the lens at her precious brats, just to boil her shit.
 
Go Google Ron Oliver & Graham Ovenden to see when This started.ie a full generation ago. This is the Culture expected by the Culture that created This.

I'd say Anthea Turner too...but I can't find any Net evidence of that...ha!:hmm:
 
Incredible how quickly attitudes have changed. Like how Roger Mayne spent years photographing the kids in Notting Hill (then Dale) in the late 1950s.

And Martin Parr's Last Resort in the 1980s -- three summers' worth of walking around photographing kids and babies on the "beach". You wouldn't last 10 minutes now -- not even with Parr's skills!
 
the nice thing about being in India again is everyone coming up to you demanding to be photographed not because they'll ever see it (though digital has it's benifits in that regard) but for the novelty of being photographed...
 
the nice thing about being in India again is everyone coming up to you demanding to be photographed not because they'll ever see it (though digital has it's benifits in that regard) but for the novelty of being photographed...

You lucky bastard. I've wanted to visit India for years and not had the chance. May have shit it for ever going now I have a wife and sprog.
But the same goes here. Kids are always wanting their photo taken with a 'bule'.
Many have camera phones here and go crackers to get their photo taken with me.
The UK really does have some odd ideas these days. Glad I'm out of it.
 
The UK really does have some odd ideas these days. Glad I'm out of it.

It is going to get a lot worse as this upcoming generation impose more insanity on what we already have. I can see those with real cameras having to have permits and background checks while teenagers will continue to be allowed to take photos with impunity on their mobiles. It has already been mentioned a few times in the hysterical press :)
 
It is going to get a lot worse as this upcoming generation impose more insanity on what we already have. I can see those with real cameras having to have permits and background checks while teenagers will continue to be allowed to take photos with impunity on their mobiles. It has already been mentioned a few times in the hysterical press :)

nah it's a storm in a teacup for a particular pecuiliar period in history nothing more every time a society becomes to dracionian it falls apart...
 
You lucky bastard. I've wanted to visit India for years and not had the chance. May have shit it for ever going now I have a wife and sprog.

I have no idea why this would stop you from going...

TBH it'd proably do you kid good to take them when they are old enough to appreciate it... part of me suggest actually when thee kids old enough to stay with granny or Nan to allow them to do so for 12 days and you and the misses go it'll be well worth it to do it before it becomes westernised sanitised and totally like very other western democracy...

it's already started last time i went there was only around bit of highway accross the country now there's thousand upone thousands of miles of the stuff and it's washing away the india people have talked about for so long and bringing with it a new and ultimately blander future as green field to remotely accessable previously now starts to become industrial units...

the pollution is better the smoking ban is actually well impalmented with deisnated smoking rooms or areas and has significantly reduced the numbers of smokers... (but you cannot smoke anywhere in public privacy of your own home or in a designated area only)
 
nah it's a storm in a teacup for a particular pecuiliar period in history nothing more every time a society becomes to dracionian it falls apart...

Trouble is that it is all being enshrined in law and psyche of the nation. Short of some form of mass civil disobedience I cannot see a return to sanity. There is no sign of the system relaxing its hold but the reverse :confused:
 
Trouble is

ffs stowpirate..don't you get it :p ...you live In the Tipping Point...Archaeology just doesn't lie around to be buried...it's gets buried for Purpose.

Watch the last few seconds of Ridley Scott's nu version of The Day the Earth Stood Still...that's It...in Pictures. :D
 
It is going to get a lot worse as this upcoming generation impose more insanity on what we already have. I can see those with real cameras having to have permits and background checks while teenagers will continue to be allowed to take photos with impunity on their mobiles. It has already been mentioned a few times in the hysterical press :)

There does seem to be a huge measure of irrationality about this whole thing when you actually look at the risks children face from sexual abusers - the proportion of abuse by strangers is in the region of 4%.

I remember the storm about Satanic abuse of children back in the 80s. Thankfully that particular myth was put to sleep, but in some ways I think the current obsession with pedophilia, notably 'stranger danger' is its continuation in another form.
 
There does seem to be a huge measure of irrationality about this whole thing when you actually look at the risks children face from sexual abusers - the proportion of abuse by strangers is in the region of 4%.

I remember the storm about Satanic abuse of children back in the 80s. Thankfully that particular myth was put to sleep, but in some ways I think the current obsession with pedophilia, notably 'stranger danger' is its continuation in another form.

As you put it "stranger danger" is destructive for society and we should be encouraging our children to take risks and even talk and mix with strangers and not fear them. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to put locks on primary schools and put groups of toddlers on lead, they are just building more problems for the future. My kids were allowed to talk to strangers from birth and they as far as we know have never come to harm. As for photography and children it is paranoia gone mad.
 
Go Google Ron Oliver & Graham Ovenden to see when This started.ie a full generation ago. This is the Culture expected by the Culture that created This.

I'd say Anthea Turner too...but I can't find any Net evidence of that...ha!:hmm:
Artist Graham Ovenden convicted of historic child sex offences

An internationally renowned artist and photographer, whose work has included portraits of nude children, has been convicted of historic sex offences against young girls dating back 40 years.

Graham Ovenden, 70, whose early tutelage was under Sir Peter Blake, the "godfather of pop art", was found guilty at Truro crown court of six charges of indecency with a child and one of indecent assault.

Ovenden, who at the height of his commercial success exhibited at the Victoria and Albert Museum and the Tate in London, and at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, was acquitted of two charges of indecent assault and found not guilty, on the direction of judge Graham Cottle, of three further charges of indecent assault.

The artist, who described himself as creator of "some of the best portraits of children in the last 200 years", had denied the charges relating to four girls who were aged between six and 14 years at the time of the offences, which occurred between 1972 and 1985. The court heard these children sat for him during photographic sessions when he "posed them indecently"
 
I've only ever had problems twice, once with a policeman during a march who twatted me round the back of me noggin for walking too slowly whilst taking a pic and another time shooting on a 5x4 camera and someone thought it was a speed camera :ffs:

I don't tend to go out in cities photographing stuff much though, I tend really only to take photos abroad as I just can't be bothered with nobbish police and security guards in the UK.
 
I tend to go for panos of landscapes and such .....often wait to minimise the number of people in them......heh
...Urban parks and cameras ...and even single men....are becoming perceived no go areas....dunno
 
<snip>...Urban parks and cameras ...and even single men....are becoming perceived no go areas....dunno
^One of the few advantages of being female. Mind you, I avoid leaving my camera visible for longer than essential, people are less worried about compacts (even with the zoom out), and it's stealth black.

Given the use of camera phones, the moral panic about anyone visibly using a camera in public is ridiculous and misplaced.
 
A friend of mine, a keen amateur photographer, was asked by two coppers to leave Paddington rec last summer because there'd been "complaints from concerned parents" that he was taking pictures in the park. He showed the plod all the pictures that he'd taken which were of plants and reflections in water. They came out with some shit about children's safety being paramount and that he'd have to leave anyway. He was fuming and still gets arsey about it, especially when I wind him up about "going noncing" at the weekends.

It says something pretty sad about society when single blokes are branded paedophiles when doing nothing but minding their own business.
 
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