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It'll still be coax. There is no FTTH in the uk, except in a very limnited BT trial.
 
This isn't "be cracking down". All ISPs do this, and have done so for years.

Use private sites, or a seedboox/VPN if you're paranoid.
 
Sunray said:
Nothing to stop Be being a peer is there.

You can use Peer guardian which blocks all suspect IP addresses from downloading from your machine, although it can't stop them seeing your in the IP list even though they can't tell if you've actually got the file.
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I also recommended protowall. You can get this from http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/index.php

Run protowall and you will be shocked how many large organization's are on the case (legally or illegally). When I used to use P2P downloading programs protowall blocked requests from loads of large organization, even some from governments and police forces!

I stopped using Peer to Peer partly beacuse of this! its all about the one-click hosters like rapidshare nowadays...........
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
erm virgin are going to full fiber later this year ... and 50 meg... (woot)

Virgin Media, the second largest service provider in the UK has approved Synergy Cables as a supplier of fiberoptic cables for its entire backbone and access network.

not only that but you are gettign confused between a twisted pair copper and coax copper...
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I don't think you mean full fibre, unless you know something I dont. Until they replace the coax and twisted pair cabling from the customers home to the core routers it wont be fully fibre. Virgin media/NTL/Telewest/C&W/whatever have had fibre backbones for years (well at least here in watford) so this isnt anything new to people in parts of the country. This is however, sooo much better that BTs ageing infrastructure which I dont know how the hell supplies you guys with ADSL. Some of the cabling is over 50 years old, how the hell that's meant to be able to sustain a connection of 24 mb/s I dont know! Untill BT sort their phone cables out I'm avoiding ADSL like the plague! Shit like these letters makes me not want to touch it with a barge pole!
 
ChrisFilter said:
Is rapidshare worth paying for?
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yeah its the best thing since sliced bread! but only if you know the right warez boards!

I'm currently maxing out my rapidshare account with about 25GB downloaded every five days! All I can say is thank fuck virginmedia don't care how much you download! They just throttle your connection after you've downloaded a few gigs at peak time.

When you can download a DVD quality rip of a film in just a few minutes rapidshare sort of pays for its self with the first download! The transfer rates are as fast as your internet connection will go! I cant put into words how nice it is not to have to rely on uploaders upsteam speeds! They are so fast in fact I now look for 1080p rips (which can be about 4gb each)

I know its weird paying money for warez but the amount of bandwidth you'll end up using (at 20+ meg speeds) is a joke!
 
They don't, in my experience, send out blanket emails about every IP they see in a list. They've had their hands smacked in the States a few times already over that in the past. They have to connect to you and receive data. What happened in the past was that without the actual evidence of connecting to the user's PC, ISPs were free to ignore all their requests.

It does still happen when one of them occasionally gets a little overzealous, but in general if they can't connect to you you're safe. Most importantantly, they can't prosecute you unless they've connected and downloaded off you.

Fiber to the home's a long way off, except possibly in new builds. POTS and coax offer more than enough bandwidth for now.
 
I've been using newsnet rather than torrents for most stuff other than tv shows recently. Costs about 8 quid a month for my subscription to newshosting, and 10 quid a year for the client newsleecher (which you can find for free via torrenting).

As a matter of interest, was it a public tracker you were using - like pirate bay or summut?
 
I'd say that'd be the weak link then...

You could do worse than use something like http://www.nzbsrus.com , and get into newsnet as mentioned. I hold no claims for it's privacy, it's just a bit less observed than the big famous public trackers...
 
WWWeed said:
I know its weird paying money for warez but the amount of bandwidth you'll end up using (at 20+ meg speeds) is a joke!
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If you're paying to download it's probably worth getting on a decent news server. £8 a month maxes out my virgin 20 meg and coupled with NZB sites it's great for downloading everything I need (films, TV, Software). Music is a bit poor though.

Or is Rapidshare better than usenet? I haven't looked into that option.

Edit: dogmatique beat me to it
 
ChrisFilter said:
Rapidshare seems like usenet without the hassles.
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Usenet isn't much of a hassle these days. NZB files are just like torrents and pull all the files to download together in your newsreader. The latest version of newsleecher also has a 'repair and extract feature' so you don't even bother having to use quickpar and winrar anymore, the completed files just appear in your download folder.

The upside is to usenet is that there is no upstream or sharing so you can't get done for distributing any copyrighted material unless you post it in a newsgroup.
 
Chz said:
They don't, in my experience, send out blanket emails about every IP they see in a list. They've had their hands smacked in the States a few times already over that in the past. They have to connect to you and receive data.
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The 'making available' argument that the RIAA have been using the US.

I don't know about having their 'hands smacked in the States a few times already' though.

There was one landmark ruling in favour of the defendant in a Federal Court in Connecticut only a few days ago where this was rejected Atlantic v. Brennan, which may then have some bearing in the ongoing Warner v. Cassin and Elektra v. Schwartz cases, which use the same defence.

UK law is different anyhow.

The Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003

Making available right for performers
7. - (1) After section 182C there shall be inserted -

" 182CA Consent required for making available to the public


(1) A performer's rights are infringed by a person who, without his consent, makes available to the public a recording of the whole or any substantial part of a qualifying performance by electronic transmission in such a way that members of the public may access the recording from a place and at a time individually chosen by them.

(2) The right of a performer under this section to authorise or prohibit the making available to the public of a recording is referred to in this Part as "making available right.".
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e2a: Of course, they would still have to prove that 'Tom Clancys Rainbow Six Vegas [PCDVD]' is a copyright work, which may require them to download some of it, but the offence is committed from the point that you share it.
 
Crispy said:
It most definately is NOT fibre to your modem :)
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Unless you live in Ebbsfleet and get on the 100Mb trial BT intend running out there later this year ;)

Anyway this is the UK, home of the bodge. So I suspect the next step for the majority of us wouldn't be FTTH (Fibre to the home) but FTTC (Fibre to the cab) FTTC is Fibre from the exchange to the green wiring cabinets scattered around, and copper from there to the home.
 
Maybe it will be too expensive for you, i don't know, but why not rent a box in scandinavia (no law against p2p) to make your DL...
Then you'll use a FTP access to have the file back to your home machine, and i don't think that FTP is under watch as HTML...
But, this is only my sight.
 
You can download and upload any file you want the offense happens when you have made a complete upload or download. Get a proper ISP. I can download a 1.5GB DVD rip in about 20 minutes and a 700MB Xvid in about ten minutes but then again I use a proper ISP :p

www.enta.net

Crispy said:
It most definately is NOT fibre to your modem :)
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Yep, you can't bend fibre for a start. It is always coax, you can get fibre optic modems but they're for the likes of LINX and the telecoms industry. There's no way Virgin (who are rated the worst ISP in the country) would give away fibre optic modems which costs thousands of pounds let alone install fragile fibre into people's homes.

Fibre to the little green boxes you see at the end of your street and then coax.
 
Yeah that isn't illegal as you're only sharing random bits. Like giving someone a bit of a jigsaw randomly - they can't stop you doing that. That's the beauty of torrents, it's a grey area and there has been no test case (yet). That's how the oink guy got away with very minor charges. Tell Be to fuck off and keep chugging away I'd also ask them to they monitor their network traffic for other illegal content such as child porn.
 
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