Das Uberdog said:
the idiots are those that believe it's been banned.
Bbc Ban Anti-war Song
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the idiots are those that believe it's been banned.
Dubversion said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6401299.stm
Hmm, next time you label something stw or Respect say as a 'complete lie' this should be born in mind.
Midweek positions are very very bad indicator of eventual chart placing with records like this, trust me.
if it does get into the top 10, i'll withdraw my cynicism re: that aspect and apologise. It's a fucking lie about the ban though, no?
if it does get into the top 10, i'll withdraw my cynicism re: that aspect and apologise. It's a fucking lie about the ban though, no?
so is anyone going to have the good grace to admit on this thread that the record isn't banned in any sense, and that the first post is just a fairy story to drum up attention?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
I have to agree with Dub here - it's hardly been 'banned' has it? The BBC won't play it or run news items on it...big fucking deal.
Storm. Teacup. in a.
Storm. Teacup. in a.
PieEye said:I don't think anyone's arguing with you
that's kind of my point - Udo who posted it and all those who fell into line about this alleged ban have suddenly gone very quiet.
twats
it's part of my rough-edged charm 
i just don't like being lied to, you see
i just don't like being lied to, you see
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Oh well, there goes my revolutionary fervour 
well, quite. Once again, the dishonesty of people like Galloway drains the life out of a potentially worthwhile venture.
Dubversion said:that's kind of my point - Udo who posted it and all those who fell into line about this alleged ban have suddenly gone very quiet.
twats
Actually I went out. The record was clearly pulled from a newsbeat item. Whether anything more happened I don't know (but I'm not the original poster).
However in these days of ppl like Al Campbell (or whoever does his job now) trying to bully the BBC into taking a more pro-govt line, and Ministers who (don't forget) tried to ban the big Feb 15th demo to save the grass in Hyde park, I think that watching very closely for such skulduggery is well in order.
I'm glad your not trying to defend your bloody daft post saying that the news that the record might make the charts was 'a complete lie' along with 'the whole press release' which was 'bollocks'.
It just showed that if Respect say the sky is blue you'll be the bloke who gets a colour chart out and starts going 'weeellll I suppose on THIS occasion it's blue, but you know it isn't at night, or at sunset, or when its cloudy and so this is partial bollocks!!!!'
i still maintain it's extremely unlikely the record will make the top 10 (it's how records like this work - they surge in early week when people with an agenda run out to buy them and then drop like a stone at the weekend when the kids go shopping).
THe rest of the press release IS bollocks - a poorly written confection of exaggeration and outright lies.
THe rest of the press release IS bollocks - a poorly written confection of exaggeration and outright lies.
So you'll be calling Edwin Starr a twat etc then? He performed it at foot of Nelson's Column at last Saturday's anti-war demo & encouraged everyone to order the single there & then.
This stunt is clearly causing ructions & that's got to be good for the anti-war movement.
For the record - I support RESPECT & the Stop The War Coalition.
And I don't need approval from anyone on here.
This stunt is clearly causing ructions & that's got to be good for the anti-war movement.
For the record - I support RESPECT & the Stop The War Coalition.
And I don't need approval from anyone on here.
i don't have a problem with the song, i have a problem with people lying about it!
Loupylou said:
No, but you need approval from the Social Workers' Central Committee before you fart...
I got about ten words into the press release before spotting it as an SWP/Dave Spart feeble content-free attempt at a wind-up. Then I mentally binned it, thinking "sad fuckers: can't even pull off a naff booster".
I'm writing this in the offices of a major news weekly. Colleagues across London will have done just the same.
That's just one way the SWP actively damages the cause of opposing the war.
laptop said:
precisely, thanks.
Desperate transparent nonsense like the OP just serves to make the anti-war movement look like a bunch of clueless amateurs.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
What I really love is the almost mystical power some people on this thread have ascribed the BBC and it's ability to affect a UNIVERSAL ban on the playing and distribution of this record...
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Dubversion said:that's kind of my point - Udo who posted it and all those who fell into line about this alleged ban have suddenly gone very quiet.
twats
Um one other person thought it could of been banned.
It's a really good thing it's only music you know a bit about.
*gets out ever growing notebook*
*opens at 'S' and scribbles 'self-righteous'*
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
kyser_soze said:
Because of course claiming that there is a BBC ban on the record must mean a universal ban, retard.
laptop said:
You chat shit, laptop - I think it's quite acceptable amongst the General Public for Respect to point out political hypocrisies amongst the media establishment, and definitely the right thing to do. But of course you'd prefer that the entire activist left just sat down and allowed the war, Blair's neo-liberal premiership and the destruction of left-wing institutions in British society to carry on undisturbed - and would be willing to sabotage any attempt made by progressives to counter such activities. At least, that's in practice what you call for and do.
You'd prefer that this wasn't made an issue of? Because obviously this would benefit the movement, how? You have an issue with sensationalist media hype, that's all - but it's strange you're not commenting upon how right-wing media hype fails to convince large portions of the population of whichever reactionary bollocks the Sun spouts every day.
DrRingDing said:
the press release stated clearly it had been banned. that's a lie.
i rest my case, buttmunch
Das Uberdog said:
'retard'?
nice
Das Uberdog said:
Dunno. I expect that any that realise they've been reified with Capital Letters will take offence.
Das Uberdog said:
I'd prefer that people didn't spout mindless shite like this, nor like the crap press release in the OP, while pretending that it represented anyone other than a tiny sect of social-skills-lacking humour-impaird cultists.
Unless of course the aim is to ensure that the press release is binned instantly for being a humourlessly pathetic failure to comunicate, specifically in order to claim that it has been "censored" by the capitalist music press, the more to build the loyalty of the sect membership
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
treelover said:
*Ahem*
And Respect have fuck all to do with left activism - any organisation that builds itself around identity politics and a religion is NOT a left wing organisation...
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Das Uberdog said:
Please explain how?
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