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RenegadeDog said:
It's good, but FIrefly is much better.

I like Joss Whedon, but I don't think Firefly came anywhere near the new BG in terms of characterisation, writing or ambition. Firefly was an entertaining show for Star Wars fan-boys and it failed because it mainly appealed to geeks. BG has become a success because it's smart enough to appeal to people who normally never watch shows set in space.
 
RenegadeDog said:
I like things because they are good, not because they are made by someone who also made something crap.

Whedon just bugs me because of Buffy fans mainly. That and he really isn't the godlike genius he thinks he is. Ok, Buffy was fun even if it did settle into a fairly dull formula. Firefly was just pandering to Whedon fanboys and was really nothing out of the ordinary.

As you may gather i'm not a fan.
 
Buffy and Angel did nothing for me, but I thought Firefly was ace. But Suplex is right, they're different shows with different angles on the genre, it's like comparing Morse with The Bill (except in this case both shows are actually good).
 
Stigmata said:
Buffy and Angel did nothing for me, but I thought Firefly was ace. But Suplex is right, they're different shows with different angles on the genre, it's like comparing Morse with The Bill (except in this case both shows are actually good).
except for the bill ...


and morse... :p
 
wishface said:
only the original boomer of course!!!

Somewhere in my trunk of teenage junk there is a poster of Herb Jefferson shirtless. There's also a nice one of Benedict with his pants halfway down his ass as well. :D
 
Then
HERBJ1.jpg

Now
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ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
Humm is your name not something to do with 2000ad?

Geeko

Invisibles innit?


Anyway:

I finally got around to buying the box set of the first series having tracked it down here in Dubai


My initial feelings from having watched the first two episodes so far, is that it seems earnest and "worthy" yet strangely dull. It is also devoid of any majorly interesting personalities or characters and completely humour-free.

Despite that, I think it shows some promise and I am cautiously optimistic about it and will be watching some more tonight.


Still - not a patch on Firefly and in fact the direction, the space scenes and the special effects/style directly rip-off Firefly in more than a few ways.....

:p
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
Oh yes of course.

I only read the first book and it was utter shit.

Yeah - A few interesting ideas and characters I suppose.....starts off promisingly enough and then proceeds to spend 100 odd pages slowly but inexorably vanishing up its own smug and particularly obtuse arse.
 
The Groke said:
Yeah - A few interesting ideas and characters I suppose.....starts off promisingly enough and then proceeds to spend 100 odd pages slowly but inexorably vanishing up its own smug and particularly obtuse arse.

My thoughts exactly.

 
The Groke said:
Still - not a patch on Firefly and in fact the direction, the space scenes and the special effects/style directly rip-off Firefly in more than a few ways.....

:p

They use the same special effects company, so it's not a coincidence. In fact you can see a brief shot of a Firefly-class transport flying overhead in one of the scenes on Caprica in the pilot.
 
Atomic Suplex, that's a great picture- I just wish I knew why she doesn't do anything for me. This must be what being gay feels like...
 
Stigmata said:
They use the same special effects company, so it's not a coincidence. In fact you can see a brief shot of a Firefly-class transport flying overhead in one of the scenes on Caprica in the pilot.

heh - that would explain a lot!

looks like NYPD Blue in space - all that camera shake and quick-zooms/pans

:cool:
 
Stigmata said:
Atomic Suplex, that's a great picture- I just wish I knew why she doesn't do anything for me. This must be what being gay feels like...

Its because she somehow looks like a really expensive and detailed special effect - you feel she just isn't real and therefore your trouser remains still.

Well speaking for myself at any rate.....
 
The Groke said:
Yeah - A few interesting ideas and characters I suppose.....starts off promisingly enough and then proceeds to spend 100 odd pages slowly but inexorably vanishing up its own smug and particularly obtuse arse.


That's what Grant does best.
 
King Mob said:
That's what Grant does best.
Here here.


I know we have all been through this before but Zenith was bloody brilliant.

Shame he pretty much fucked everything else up. What about putting himself in the last eps of animal man??? That just about sums him up.

 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
Here here.


I know we have all been through this before but Zenith was bloody brilliant.

Shame he pretty much fucked everything else up. What about putting himself in the last eps of animal man??? That just about sums him up.

Animal Man is great, there was a point in his breaking down the fourth wall and anyhow, it was a 'postmodern' version of old Flash comics where Julie Schwartz would pop up.

His current stuff is treading water though. All-Star Superman is fun but Alan Moore has done this kind of retro stuff with Supreme and Tom Strong. Grant's Batman is ok, in fact all his superhero stuff is just simply ok. It used to be fucking great but hey ho.

And yes, Zenith was wonderful.
 
King Mob said:
Animal Man is great, there was a point in his breaking down the fourth wall and anyhow, it was a 'postmodern' version of old Flash comics where Julie Schwartz would pop up.

His current stuff is treading water though. All-Star Superman is fun but Alan Moore has done this kind of retro stuff with Supreme and Tom Strong. Grant's Batman is ok, in fact all his superhero stuff is just simply ok. It used to be fucking great but hey ho.

And yes, Zenith was wonderful.
We3 was good. And I liked his X-Men run, shame about the rotating artists, though.

...so, Battlestar Galactica, then. Anyone watching the webisodes?

SG
 
Saw a repeat last night. Anyone know the dates for the next series, is it definitely as late as xmas. Don't know if I can wait that long, might have to get the old p2p up and runnin' again.

Best thing on tv this.
 
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