bastard yanks

[8ball]

I suppose you're right. What sort of moral reasoning allows one to believe that it's ok to tear people limb from limb, then hang their bodies from poles. And not only that, but then to laugh into the cameras, and not expect any retribution.

Bad reasoning, no doubt.

If the US had killed everyone in the mob then that would be understandable, if you think killing uninvolved civilians in a revenge attack is justified by this then that's your lookout - it puts you in the same moral category as the 9/11 bombers but at least you chosen a side.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

If the US had killed everyone in the mob then that would be understandable, if you think killing uninvolved civilians in a revenge attack is justified by this then that's your lookout - it puts you in the same moral category as the 9/11 bombers but at least you chosen a side.

Surely the attack on the vehicles as they drove through town in the first place was some sort of revenge attack in the mind of the people in Fallujah. Was that ok?

In honesty, I can't defend all the actions taken by the americans in Iraq, but I find it amusing seeing people like you turning contortions in an attempt to justify a brutal mob killing like this.

 

[8ball]

In honesty, I can't defend all the actions taken by the americans in Iraq, but I find it amusing seeing people like you turning contortions in an attempt to justify a brutal mob killing like this.

I haven't attempted to justify that killing in any post on this thread.

It looked very much to me like you were using this killing to justify US brutality. It's very weird being accused by you of using your own tactics. Especially when I didn't.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Great getting a swarm attack to defend someone's druken godwin breaking post demanding of all things..... facts. <snip>

I tend to look on Godwin more as a guideline these days, particularly where the 'War on Terror' is concerned, but when present, I am quite able to speak for myself on this.

Sure the 'puke with self disgust' bit was hyperbole, but it does seem to me (and evidently to others) that the US military has behaved in a sufficiently shameful way to at least sustain a legitimate comparison with the Waffen SS.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You, obviously.

 

[TAE]

I suppose you're right. What sort of moral reasoning allows one to believe that it's ok to tear people limb from limb, then hang their bodies from poles. And not only that, but then to laugh into the cameras, and not expect any retribution.

Bad reasoning, no doubt.

Hmm, perhaps the Iraqis should have just called in an air-strike against these security contractors (which might narrowly miss and let them burn to death in their vehicle) and the pilots could have gloated over them ? Would that have been better ?

 

[Streathamite]

Whatever the reason, seems to have stopped since the US flattened Fallujah.

and here in a nutshell, is the classic N american thinking that got them into this disastrous mess, and why they are light years away from solving their middle east nightmare
1) our might is always right - to hell with morality
2) it's all dem uncivilised ay-rabs fault, and none of our problems are down to us

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

and here in a nutshell, is the classic N american thinking that got them into this disastrous mess, and why they are light years away from solving their middle east nightmare
1) our might is always right - to hell with morality
2) it's all dem uncivilised ay-rabs fault, and none of our problems are down to us

Someone already said this a page or two ago.

 

[Yossarian]

Whatever the reason, seems to have stopped since the US flattened Fallujah.

I reckon the only reason some of these guys didn’t end up hanging from poles is that there wasn’t enough of them left to hang.

http://icasualties.org/oif/Civ.aspx

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I reckon the only reason some of these guys didn’t end up hanging from poles is that there wasn’t enough of them left to hang.

http://icasualties.org/oif/Civ.aspx

Hey; gloating

 

[nick1181]

I suppose you're right. What sort of moral reasoning allows one to believe that it's ok to tear people limb from limb, then hang their bodies from poles. And not only that, but then to laugh into the cameras, and not expect any retribution.

Bad reasoning, no doubt.

Well, I expect they thought they were exacting some sort of retribution themselves - their morality, not mine I hasten to add.

Are you trying to justify US behaviour by judging it against that commited by an out of control mob of deeply fucked up people?


Sorry - these aren't the standards that the US has to live up to. The US has to live up to the standards created by its own mythology. US soldiers are the good guys. Everyone knows this - and yet we're seeing abysmal behaviour - and the rest of the Western world, including quite a lot of people from America itself are making no bones about the fact that this is utterly unacceptable.

 

[Yossarian]

Mercenaries are the scum of the earth - at least people in the army may have the excuse that they joined u pto serve their country, mercenaries are just making money out of conflict and suffering.

The ones in Iraq are immune from prosecution and by all accounts are even more contemptous of Iraqi life than the US Army - hanging from bridges is the best place for them.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Mercenaries are the scum of the earth - at least people in the army may have the excuse that they joined u pto serve their country, mercenaries are just making money out of conflict and suffering.

The ones in Iraq are immune from prosecution and by all accounts are even more contemptous of Iraqi life than the US Army - hanging from bridges is the best place for them.

Does that include the non iraqis like al Zarqawi, who fight for the other side?

 

[Yossarian]

Sure, they’re a bunch of cunts too.