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don't think 35 watts would be any good for anything except practising at home... that hartke thing is 120 watts and i woudln't really want any less than that (although it was a really tiny 120 watts i am sure you could get louder amps of less wattage)
 
rutabowa said:
don't think 35 watts would be any good for anything except practising at home... that hartke thing is 120 watts and i woudln't really want any less than that (although it was a really tiny 120 watts i am sure you could get louder amps of less wattage)
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I was thinking for putting though a PA not supplying wembly stadium.
 
but i would at least want it loud enough to use as a stage monitor, 35 watts would just sound like silence with drums going.
 
rutabowa said:
i wonder how long this one will last?
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This one is industrial. The problem with the other three was the plastic parts. The first two had plastic where the wheels flipped and the third where the wheels where joined. This one is solid and can climb stairs!!! I might even be able to transport my Marshall.
 
Hartke stuff is fine... you might find 70 watts a bit limited for monitoring but it's better than nothing.

oh and nice trolley!
 
rutabowa said:
oh yeah that one's only 70 watts isn't it, i want a louder one. it's in Essez anyway
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the 120 watt Kickback one which is pretty good, there aren't any cheap ones on ebay at the moment though.

hmm... what about this (lightsoutlondon, for you too):

http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/product_info.php?PID=278


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130 watts (not 180w like it says, you have to add an extra cab for that) , £150 quid new. used to have one, they have a good sound, just about small enough to take on the tube too.
 
damnhippie said:
the 120 watt Kickback one which is pretty good, there aren't any cheap ones on ebay at the moment though.

hmm... what about this (lightsoutlondon, for you too):

http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/product_info.php?PID=278


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130 watts (not 180w like it says, you have to add an extra cab for that) , £150 quid new. used to have one, they have a good sound, just about small enough to take on the tube too.
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We've got one that looks just like that. It weighs a ton, think it's bigger than that one though.
 
damnhippie said:
the 120 watt Kickback one which is pretty good, there aren't any cheap ones on ebay at the moment though.

hmm... what about this (lightsoutlondon, for you too):

http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/product_info.php?PID=278


ElectricBlue12180.jpg



130 watts (not 180w like it says, you have to add an extra cab for that) , £150 quid new. used to have one, they have a good sound, just about small enough to take on the tube too.
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don't like the look of it
 
damnhippie said:
the 120 watt Kickback one which is pretty good, there aren't any cheap ones on ebay at the moment though.

hmm... what about this (lightsoutlondon, for you too):

http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/product_info.php?PID=278


ElectricBlue12180.jpg



130 watts (not 180w like it says, you have to add an extra cab for that) , £150 quid new. used to have one, they have a good sound, just about small enough to take on the tube too.
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Ta, DH.

I'll be honest...I'd never heard of Ashdown stuff until I started looking at bass equipment a couple of weeks ago.

I'm favouring buying an amp head and DI'ing it into a PA, or begging the use of speaker cabs if there isn't a proper PA. Need to see where this thing goes before I spend any serious £$£$.

...or maybe buy a tartan shopping trolley to lug the stuff around (^^ @ Atomic lol)
 
Have been out of the bass guitar game some time. I did have an amp called Cube. Are they still going? It was light weight and produced a good sound.

Good luck on your bass journey.
 
i am taking delivery of a Sansamp bassdriver DI tomorrow... it is unique in that everyone everywhere seems to totally love, like it has some magic power. it's a lot cheaper than an ampeg stack too. i will gig test it on the weekend.
 
i'm sure it will be good. Is there any point using it as a straight stomp box instead of as a DI? I guess the answer would be, "yes, if you can't get the right sound from the amp and speakers alone". I guess i use a fairly dirty sound, I use a Rat distortion pedal (distortion on 1 to 2) on all the time, I am thinking the sansamp will be a better way of getting this mild edge, and then i can just use the Rat for an extra fuzz when i need it.
 
als, as a sound engineer how do you feel if someone turns up with their own DI box to use, rather than the one you've set up?
 
rutabowa said:
i'm sure it will be good. Is there any point using it as a straight stomp box instead of as a DI? I guess the answer would be, "yes, if you can't get the right sound from the amp and speakers alone". I guess i use a fairly dirty sound, I use a Rat distortion pedal (distortion on 1 to 2) on all the time, I am thinking the sansamp will be a better way of getting this mild edge, and then i can just use the Rat for an extra fuzz when i need it.
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Use the sansamp as you would an amp head - so your signal chain would be:

Code: 
                           ----> XLR out to FOH
                          /
Bass ---> Rat ---> Sansamp
                          \
                           ----> Jack output to bass amp

That way you can switch the sansamp sound in and out with the footswitch, as well as the rat, and you will hear through your stack exactly the same signal as will be goung to FOH (assuming your amp head is set flat with no obvious EQ/overdrive etc)

In an ideal world you do away with your stack entirely, but this relies on having a good monitor engineer and decent wedges.



It's one of those bits of kit that you really need to experiment with to get the most out of, and to find "your" sound, coz the range of noises you can get out of it is bonkers :)
 
i understand that would be the main way to use it, but say this friday i think they prefer to mike up the bass cab rather than use a DI... so i guess if i can get an ok sound without the sansamp all is good, but if I want a bit extra i can just use it like a stomp box to add a bit of grit.

beesonthewhatnow said:
Use the sansamp as you would an amp head - so your signal chain would be:

Code: 
                           ----> XLR out to FOH
                          /
Bass ---> Rat ---> Sansamp
                          \
                           ----> Jack output to bass amp

That way you can switch the sansamp sound in and out with the footswitch, as well as the rat, and you will hear through your stack exactly the same signal as will be goung to FOH (assuming your amp head is set flat with no obvious EQ/overdrive etc)
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rutabowa said:
this friday i think they prefer to mike up the bass cab rather than use a DI...
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Then they're bonkers quite frankly :D

The wiring would be the same as the diagram above, just lose the XLR feed. It kinda defeats the point of having it though - one of the major plus points of a sansamp pedal is that it gives you an "amplified" sound, but on a balanced output, thus eliminating the need for a mic.
 
Oh, make sure to tell the enginner that you need phantom power on whatever XLR line you're plugged into, otherwise you won't make much noise at all :D
 
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