Barak H Obama: Do you believe?

[butchersapron]

So how would you describe it then? Affectionate mockery?

Please explain, not sure what you mean.


I'm not riled, just curious as you don't seem to be supporting Mccain either so what's the point?

1) Something not being one thing doesn't mean that it's automatically another specified thing.

2) Not complicated - weak kneed, he's our saviour type comments that remind me of class deference.

3) I wasn't aware i had to.

 

[Treacle Toes]

For many Americans, this election offers a choice between the shoe sizes of the feet that will kick them. I would have thought that was a reasonable position.

Fair enough, it just seemed that all of BA's negativeness was aimed in the same place.

 

[butchersapron]

On a thread ABOUT Lord Obama? Fancy that!

**must be more even handed - fuck knows why though**

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Fair enough, it just seemed that all of BA's negativeness was aimed in the same place.

Nobody's starting any threads asking how people feel about McCain, that's all. It seems to be taken as a given that he is a cunt.

 

[spanglechick]

ah - he's a slick, ambitious political pro with a talent for pr and an understanding of the zeitgeist - rather like tony blair, but a tad more sophisticated.

he'll bring no surprises, upset no one important, and bide out his eight years clinton-style, and everyone will thank their stars he isnt bush.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Would that be the Clinton who deregulated the US banking system?

 

[spanglechick]

Would that be the Clinton who deregulated the US banking system?

heh. - ok, not completely without impact, then.

 

[butchersapron]

Who started off (or escalated) the humanitarian-imperialism we hknow see in Iraq etc etc Who fucked up the chance of socialised health care for at least another generation
You cannot sit in that job and not do these things. It's that simple.

 

[spanglechick]

Who started off (or escalted) the humanitarian-imperialism we hknow see in Iraq etc etc Yiou cannot sit in that job and not do these things. It's that simple.

absolutely. no fan of clinton here - just saying he's not going to make many waves.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Nobody's starting any threads asking how people feel about McCain, that's all. It seems to be taken as a given that he is a cunt.

I didn't read it that way at all.

I saw the starting of this thread coming about because by all accounts Obama looks likely to win the election.

 

[butchersapron]

We're still feeling Clinton's waves though. Aything the US does makes waves. Which doesn;t make Lord Obama especially bad yet, but it does mean there's no way he won't do bad things. It's in the job description. He might do very bad things, and as i noted earlier, he's been sabre rattling already...

 

[butchersapron]

I didn't read it that way at all.

I saw the starting of this thread coming about because by all accounts Obama looks likely to win the election.

And?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Yes, Clinton did like his little bombing raids. He continued the US embargo on Cuba and to support rather nasty folk around the world.

Oh, and paved the way for the first federal execution in 38 years.

 

[Treacle Toes]

he's been sabre rattling already...

That's the second time you've posted that, what do you mean by it?

 

[Treacle Toes]

And?

and....I was responding to LBJ.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That's the second time you've posted that, what do you mean by it?

Threats against Iran. (sorry, butchers, you can speak for yourself)

 

[spanglechick]

i'm not expressing myself clearly.

by waves - i mean a massive sea-change to the left. a headline for the abridged history books.

posting on politics always makes me feel thick, which is why i don't think i've bothered in about two years, despite being interested. night all.

 

[butchersapron]

That's the second time you've posted that, what do you mean by it?

The term sabre rattling? It means threatening to attack someone bascially, to get them to do what you want - the actions of someone so overwhelmingly powerful they can just rattle the sabre in it's holder (not the right term i suspect!) to make people jump to their command. He's already taken a very agggresive stand towards Iran - saying he'll attack them if he felt the situation required it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

i'm not expressing myself clearly.

by waves - i mean a massive sea-change to the left. a headline for the abridged history books.

posting on politics always makes me feel thick, which is why i don't think i've bothered in about two years, despite being interested. night all.

Ah, I misunderstood. That is a perfectly reasonable thing to say.

 

[butchersapron]

and....I was responding to LBJ.

And?

 

[Treacle Toes]

The term sabre rattling? It means threatening to attack someone bascially, to get them to do what you want - the actions of someone so overwhelmingly powerful thay can just rattle the sabe to make people jump to their command.

I knew that, I was just interested to what you meant by he'd been doing it.

He's already taken a very agggresive stand towards Iran - saying he'll attack them if he felt the situation required it.

Right-o.

 

[butchersapron]

Maybe i should be more postive towards this approach?

 

[Detroit City]

Election day aint far off, whatever the voters or Diebold happen to decide, what are your impressions of Mr O?

his first week in office Obamamama will issue a declaration that the Bush Admin messed things up so badly that he'll have a hard time implementing most of his campaign promises....

i guarantee it

 

[Treacle Toes]

Maybe i should be more postive towards this approach?

Is this your only objection to Obama's possible election?

 

[butchersapron]

Have a guess.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Many people hope that Obama has been rattling the sabre as an electioneering tactic, that he doesn't really mean any of the scary stuff and is just saying it to get elected.

People hoped similar things of Tony Blair in 1997.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Have a guess.

I guess, you don't really want to talk about it.

 

[butchersapron]

I guess, you don't really want to talk about it.

About how i don't support neo-liberalism even in the Democrat Lord Obama style?

 

[Treacle Toes]

About how i don't support neo-liberalism even in the Democrat Lord Obama style?

Who would you support if they were running?

 

[butchersapron]

Shergar?
No one?