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To be fair to Banksy the original Robbo piece had certainly seen better days. Whilst I appreciate that it may have been disrespectful in graf circles, there was a certain way in which it could have been seen that the Robbo work had been reinvigorated by Baksy's addition. I would like to think that had it been me I would have taken it as a compliment rather than that I had been dissed.

Well, it's probably because he had been dissed. If you were a graff writer you'd know this.
 
I even had a bit of my old footage in the documentary, wasn't expecting that. There is a benefit party/auction for Robbo in Sept.

was that the robbo tubes? i have that footage somewhere too - think it was on one of the old visual graffix vids that keen used to knock out? long time ago, memory hazy now.
 
Well, it's probably because he had been dissed. If you were a graff writer you'd know this.

It had already been tagged to fuck tho, hardly looked like an important piece. What Banksy did actually made it important again and was atleast more artistic than tagging all over it.
 
Its the root of all evil according to a lot of urban posters :rolleyes:

It's the holy grail of work as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure that I could make more money selling guns or something else I find morally reprehensible e.g. Tory mp.


I'd rather make less doing something I'd love like radio DJ.
 
It's the holy grail of work as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure that I could make more money selling guns or something else I find morally reprehensible e.g. Tory mp.

I'd rather make less doing something I'd love like radio DJ.

Same here, editor specifically always comes to mind when talking about this stuff. He goes on about how he could retire tomorrow if he put ads on urban and then goes and rattles the tin can.
 
Its the "love of money" that is the root of all evil, not money itself. There is a BIG difference!

Well in any threads I've been involved in that its come up, the mere fact that someone was looking to profit off something led people to label them a cunt.

I do agree that the distinction is important though.
 
It had already been tagged to fuck tho, hardly looked like an important piece. What Banksy did actually made it important again and was atleast more artistic than tagging all over it.

Sorry mate but you don't get it. Again, if you were a writer you'd understand the piece's importance and why banksy is getting so much grief for going over it. Banksy knew full well what he was doing and deserves everything he gets as he chose to start this conflict.
 
Holy shit forgot about steel injection - I have that somewhere in the old stash. that was your movie eh? nice one, respect due etc.

No, no, not my movie, Kilo edited together a few peoples footage, added music & distributed it (along with Visual Grafix) but there is a chunk of stuff I filmed in there.
 
I'm curious about who knows and respects this supposedly standard graff code of conduct about not going over someone's work.

From an outsiders point of view tagging has always appeared to be a pissing contest of graffiti taggers going over each others tags to prove they are better or mark their territory.
 
Same here, editor specifically always comes to mind when talking about this stuff. He goes on about how he could retire tomorrow if he put ads on urban and then goes and rattles the tin can.

I'm not sure that's fair on editor.

Servers do cost money. Especially for high traffic sites. Is he really expected to fund it all out of his own pockets?

Plus he used to design websites for big corporations for lots of money. He deliberately turned away from that when he could still be making the megabucks.
 
No, no, not my movie, Kilo edited together a few peoples footage, added music & distributed it (along with Visual Grafix) but there is a chunk of stuff I filmed in there.

Ah right, get ya. Still, props mate. Yes, it was Kilo not Keen!
 
I'm not sure that's fair on editor.

Servers do cost money. Especially for high traffic sites. Is he really expected to fund it all out of his own pockets?

Plus he used to design websites for big corporations for lots of money. He deliberately turned away from that when he could still be making the megabucks.

Well you cant have it both ways in my view. I dont expect him to fund it out of his own pockets, but I think its a bit cheeky to look for donations saying its for the community and then when asked what the actual costs are, he wont say. But then happily goes on a rant against other sites that "sold out" to become part of a bigger company.

If I'm going to donate to something it seems reasonable to want a bit of transparency regarding where the money is going (fwiw I wouldnt have any issue if some of the donations did go to a few pints for mods, they deserve it). I'm not donating to fund his personal idealogical stance that I dont agree with
 
I saw that programme. It was interesting.

The problem with much of the graffitti is that 99.9% of it looks shit. It's very samey in style. Usually just some words. It's neither attractive, thought provoking, nor does anyone ask for it to be there. It's just a macho sub-culture thing.
 
Well you cant have it both ways in my view. I dont expect him to fund it out of his own pockets, but I think its a bit cheeky to look for donations saying its for the community and then when asked what the actual costs are, he wont say. But then happily goes on a rant against other sites that "sold out" to become part of a bigger company.

If I'm going to donate to something it seems reasonable to want a bit of transparency regarding where the money is going (fwiw I wouldnt have any issue if some of the donations did go to a few pints for mods, they deserve it). I'm not donating to fund his personal idealogical stance that I dont agree with

The editor (and all due respect intended) wants kudos, rather than wealth. He also wants to retain a fair amount of control over how things work, doesn't want adverts, and wants the site as accessible as possible. Therefore the finances of the site are a compromise.
 
The editor (and all due respect intended) wants kudos, rather than wealth. He also wants to retain a fair amount of control over how things work, doesn't want adverts, and wants the site as accessible as possible. Therefore the finances of the site are a compromise.

Putting ads on the site would in no way restrict his control of the site, ditto to the accessibility of it. He can make the compromise all he likes I'm just not ready to fund it. Anyway I've derailed this enough, I'll shut up now.
 
Well you cant have it both ways in my view. I dont expect him to fund it out of his own pockets, but I think its a bit cheeky to look for donations saying its for the community and then when asked what the actual costs are, he wont say. But then happily goes on a rant against other sites that "sold out" to become part of a bigger company.

If I'm going to donate to something it seems reasonable to want a bit of transparency regarding where the money is going (fwiw I wouldnt have any issue if some of the donations did go to a few pints for mods, they deserve it). I'm not donating to fund his personal idealogical stance that I dont agree with
don't be a cunt
you don't have to give a donation and you can ignore the thread(s)
it is your problem if you can't understand it and as you well know, if you don't like it you can fuck off to a board with ads or whatever
 
Putting ads on the site would in no way restrict his control of the site, ditto to the accessibility of it. He can make the compromise all he likes I'm just not ready to fund it. Anyway I've derailed this enough, I'll shut up now.
are there 2 levels of membership here? NO
is your access to the boards restricted because you don't donate? NO
have you ever been asked directly for a donation? NO
are you being disingenious about ads and control as that's not the issue? YES
are you being a bit of a moaning knobber again? YES
 
are there 2 levels of membership here? NO
is your access to the boards restricted because you don't donate? NO
have you ever been asked directly for a donation? NO
are you being disingenious about ads and control as that's not the issue? YES
are you being a bit of a moaning knobber again? YES

Remarkable that you managed a whole post that has no fucking relevance to what I wrote. The ads/control comment was a response to the previous poster about editor wanting to keep control, fucking idiot.
 
Well you cant have it both ways in my view. I dont expect him to fund it out of his own pockets, but I think its a bit cheeky to look for donations saying its for the community and then when asked what the actual costs are, he wont say. But then happily goes on a rant against other sites that "sold out" to become part of a bigger company.

If I'm going to donate to something it seems reasonable to want a bit of transparency regarding where the money is going (fwiw I wouldnt have any issue if some of the donations did go to a few pints for mods, they deserve it). I'm not donating to fund his personal idealogical stance that I dont agree with

still happy enough to come here for fuck all tho. If you disagree so much fuck off somewhere else.
 
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