Banker found dead

[teqniq]

The body of another banker, who had been questioned by the FBI as a potential witness in the Enron fraud case, was found in London on Wednesday. There is no indication that his death is linked to the case.

Gosh!

Police said they were treating the death of Neil Coulbeck, who worked for the Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) until 2004, as "unexplained".

I wonder how much someone was leant on to 'unexplain' it?

source

 

[detective-boy]

I wonder how much someone was leant on to 'unexplain' it?

The phraseology means nothing significant.

According to good investigative practice a death is treated as possible murder until it is clear there is another explanation. This frequently requires a wait until after a post-mortem examination (hours) and sometimes associated toxicilogy results (days, or even weeks).

The media (being simplistic) always jump up and down saying "Is it being treated as murder? Is it being treated as murder?" and, also being congenitally incapable of distinguishing between "being treated as" and "is", usually run off and print headlines reading "Horrible Murder, Horrible Murder" which (a) distress families unnecessarily; (b) add unnecessarily to the communities fear of crime and (c) frequently cause actual problems for the investigation.

So the phrase "It is being treated as an unexplained death at this time" was invented.

But the police aren't led by the media in what they do at all. Oh no!

 

[teqniq]

Ta.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Galloway in Parliament on the extradition

http://www.publications.parliament....m060712/debtext/60712-0891.htm#06071247001151

 

[lostexpectation]

The phraseology means nothing significant.

According to good investigative practice a death is treated as possible murder until it is clear there is another explanation. This frequently requires a wait until after a post-mortem examination (hours) and sometimes associated toxicilogy results (days, or even weeks).

The media (being simplistic) always jump up and down saying "Is it being treated as murder? Is it being treated as murder?" and, also being congenitally incapable of distinguishing between "being treated as" and "is", usually run off and print headlines reading "Horrible Murder, Horrible Murder" which (a) distress families unnecessarily; (b) add unnecessarily to the communities fear of crime and (c) frequently cause actual problems for the investigation.

So the phrase "It is being treated as an unexplained death at this time" was invented.

But the police aren't led by the media in what they do at all. Oh no!

first reports said he ws found hanging, although that could just be rumour

 

[lostexpectation]

good description of natwest 3

http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1821166,00.html

Although the trio are charged with defrauding NatWest, the prosecution's case is that they were drawn to free-spending Enron like laughing children to a merry-go-round, and that their conduct was entwined with the string of frauds which brought down that company.

The speed of Enron's implosion followed the abrupt realisation that the company's off-balance sheet ventures were dubious affairs used to conceal losses.

While the case is closely connected with the Enron frauds, the NatWest Three are essentially accused of pulling off their own little swindle on the side.

 

[detective-boy]

first reports said he ws found hanging, although that could just be rumour

Unless someone sees them do it, a hanging is "unexplained" until you have post mortem and toxicology results which show (a) that the hanging killed them (as opposed to something else, following which they were hung up) and (b) they were not drugged in some way which would render them incapable of resistance whilst being hung up.

Usually you will end up with enough to be sure they hung themselves ... but why is another matter. And a "balance of probabilities" answer is often the best you can expect.

 

[ymu]

Shakram Bakri (sp?) Liberty women

Shami Chakrabarti