Back to the Future.

[Lord Camomile]

But he stole the tune from Chuck Berry, who in turn stole it from him, and so on and so forth forever. So it's not racist. I think

It's Marty's Paradox. Or Chuck's Paradox

 

[SpookyFrank]

I've said it before and I'll no doubt say it again sometime, but Back to the Future 2 has one of the brilliant ideas for a sequel ever. A lot of sequels copy strands of plot and even the denouement of their first film, but only BTTF 2 literally shows the same things happening again.

It's my favourite of the series for that reason.

 

[belboid]

Is it racist because Michael J Fox invented Rock and Roll?

But he stole the tune from Chuck Berry, who in turn stole it from him, and so on and so forth forever. So it's not racist. I think

I can't quite remember now ( ), but it's portrayal of those craaaaaazy A-Rabs leaved something to be desired, iirr

 

[8den]

I wonder if they'll do a reboot at some point. Hard to see where they'd go with it. People were a lot more optimistic about The Future back then...

Apparently Zemekics has said any remake will happen literally over his dead body, and indeed is leaving instructions in his will asking his estate to ensure that a remake won't happen even then.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I can't quite remember now facepalm, but it's portrayal of those craaaaaazy A-Rabs leaved something to be desired, iirr

I though they were Iranians?

e2a: Libyans, silly me.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Apparently Zemekics has said any remake will happen literally over his dead body, and indeed is leaving instructions in his will asking his estate to ensure that a remake won't happen even then.

Well he's sending mixed messages then...

 

[Lord Camomile]

I though they were Iranians?

Libyans.

 

[8den]

Back to the future pub quiz tonight. Any team name suggestions?

The Heavies (Marty Keeps saying "Heavy" in one).

 

[Schmetterling]

They have definitely arrived ... I saw the DeLorean in Belgravia today!!!

 

[belboid]

I though they were Iranians?

e2a: Libyans, silly me.

Arabs, Iranians, Libyans...I dont think they (especially the costume designer) gave a flying fig...

 

[8den]

Arabs, Iranians, Libyans...I dont think they (especially the costume designer) gave a flying fig...

Libyans were a more topical Villain circa 1985.

 

[Mogden]

Back to the future pub quiz tonight. Any team name suggestions?

Great Scott

The Calvin Martys

Enchantment under the Sea

Hoverboarders

Car 'O' Shite

 

[danny la rouge]

The teen and I watched 1 this afternoon. We're just about to tuck into 2 now.

 

[trashpony]

Me and the foal are watching all 3 back to back. He begged to be able to carry on watching. Thanks spanglechick

 

[danny la rouge]

I don't recognise any of this. Turns out I haven't seen BTTF2 after all.

 

[danny la rouge]

God, it's terrible!

 

[kropotkin]

Terribly amazing?

 

[danny la rouge]

Terribly amazing?

No. I had to stop. It was ruining the first one for me!

 

[trashpony]

It's crap but the foal is gripped. BTTF2 is now his favourite film apparently

 

[Lord Camomile]

It's crap but the foal is gripped. BTTF2 is now his favourite film apparently

Have you addressed the fact that the 'future' depicted in the film is now in fact four days in the past, and thus fabricated entirely from lies and deception?

 

[8den]

Have you addressed the fact that the 'future' depicted in the film is now in fact four days in the past, and thus fabricated entirely from lies and deception?

No one gives 1984 this kind grief or blade runner (which is set in 2019) and we haven't got replicants or attack ships off Orion.

 

[Lord Camomile]

No one gives 1984 this kind grief or blade runner (which is set in 2019) and we haven't got replicants or attack ships off Orion.

That's because no-one was hoping for the futures of 1984 or Blade Runner (still time...) - I was promised hoverboards and rehydrated pizza!!

 

[8den]

That's because no-one was hoping for the futures of 1984 or Blade Runner (still time...) - I was promised hoverboards and rehydrated pizza!!

I'll take a Darryl Hannah sex bot over rehydrated Pizza...

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

No one gives 1984 this kind grief or blade runner (which is set in 2019) and we haven't got replicants or attack ships off Orion.

1984 isn't set in 1984, they don't know what the real date is, its just what they have been told.

 

[8den]

1984 isn't set in 1984, they don't know what the real date is, its just what they have been told.

Atomic we've talked before about you letting facts get in the way of my points.

 

[skyscraper101]

I noticed they cut out the word 'spook' from BTTF last time I saw it on TV. That is definitely a recent edit as I've seen it loads of times over the years and would've noticed it by now. I wonder why they thought it wasn't ok anymore given its context and how many years that line was included in full.

I know the connotations in the US but surely that was the point, to show how casual racism was banded about more in the 50s? May as well have edited out "a coloured mayor, that'll be the day!" if they were going do away with all un-PC references.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Atomic we've talked before about you letting facts get in the way of my points.

Just make the same point about 2001 or something.

 

[danny la rouge]

I noticed they cut out the word 'spook' from BTTF last time I saw it on TV. That is definitely a recent edit as I've seen it loads of times over the years and would've noticed it by now. I wonder why they thought it wasn't ok anymore given its context and how many years that line was included in full.

I know the connotations in the US but surely that was the point, to show how casual racism was banded about more in the 50s? May as well have edited out "a coloured mayor, that'll be the day!" if they were going do away with all un-PC references.

Just Googled that. I had no idea "spook" was a racist term. I'd never heard it before. (Except as ghost or spy).

If it was in the original edit I must have just ignored it as yet an other inexplicable cultural reference.

But I'd agree: a character can be racist without the intent of the whole film being racist.

 

[skyscraper101]

Just Googled that. I had no idea "spook" was a racist term. I'd never heard it before. (Except as ghost or spy).

If it was in the original edit I must have just ignored it as yet an other inexplicable cultural reference.

But I'd agree: a character can be racist without the intent of the whole film being racist.

The bbc show 'Spooks' is re-titled as 'MI5' in the USA for that reason. It's a very racially tainted word in America.

 

[danny la rouge]

As an aside, what's the derivation? I mean, if it was a deragotory term for white people I would see the logic...