Most people are not DJs though - I don't think you are representative of the average working man.
Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Yes, people are absolutely time poor. There's also issues with the availability and the cost of healthy food, especially in poor, rural, or minority neighborhoods. I don't see either of those issues as limited to a vegan diet. It takes less time to throw a potato in the microwave and dump some canned beans on top, or to chop a few veggies and put them into a slow cooker with some stock, than it does to go through a fast food drive through. I will agree that there's some extra time involved in learning new recipes that work within your life whenever you make a major diet change.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
I've never milked an oat. I just don't have a milking stool small enough.
I'm surprised how easy Veganuary is - and cheap. I haven't been able to cook for my family because I've had covid so I'm losing the economy of bulk but so far I've spent very little time in the kitchen. My only hurdle is preventing everyone eating all my vegan stuff. (tbf 'my vegan stuff' is salt n vinegar crisps, malt loaf and vegan chocolate so I can see why they're doing it.) I've eaten a lot of fruit and veg and beans and pulses - tons - but after 20 years of cooking for a family you can prepare this stuff in minutes.
I'm surprised how easy Veganuary is - and cheap. I haven't been able to cook for my family because I've had covid so I'm losing the economy of bulk but so far I've spent very little time in the kitchen. My only hurdle is preventing everyone eating all my vegan stuff. (tbf 'my vegan stuff' is salt n vinegar crisps, malt loaf and vegan chocolate so I can see why they're doing it.) I've eaten a lot of fruit and veg and beans and pulses - tons - but after 20 years of cooking for a family you can prepare this stuff in minutes.
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I'm a DJ for about 6 hours every month, not that I have put myself forward at any time as being 'representative of the average working man,' so I've no idea why you're posting up such irrelevant personal comments.
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hiraethified
Places like Lidl have loads of cheap vegan food on offer these days, and of course, fruit, veg, beans, pulses can all be picked up cheap too.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I was doing my online grocery order at Sainsbury's the other day and I typed in 'vegan' - over 4000 products come up (of course then there's all the fruits, vegetables, grains, pulses, nuts and seeds). There were four different flavours of Hellman's vegan mayo. There are pizzas, burgers, ready meals, tonnes of mock meats. All the restaurants have options. If you have access to a supermarket and aren't in poverty, being vegan is fucking easy if you want to be.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
nooooo, you've got it wrong!!! you've got to get many buses far away to specialist places and pick through the dusty shelves for protein
much easier to eat meat with ethical butchers on every street corner!
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Well, it was good while it lasted.
Why would anyone have to make their own oat milk to be vegan? This doesn't make any sense.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
They don’t, that wasn’t the point being made in the article.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Has Flimsier dusted off his frock again?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Another question posed by many fragile refuseniks! 
www.bbc.co.uk
What if the whole world went vegan?
What if the whole world went vegan? What impact would it have in terms of climate change and the environment?
www.bbc.co.uk
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This may make some people reconsider their diets
www.theguardian.com
Cow review – Andrea Arnold’s deeply moving chronicle of the life of a dairy cow
Arnold’s film following Luma the Holstein Friesian through four gruelling years in the milking shed is raw, essential viewing
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hiraethified
Allow me to explain: It's extremely unusual for a 'new' poster to start referencing what people do outside the boards, especially when it's being used to score cheap points. So people suspect it could be a returning banned poster. HTH. HAND.
Sorry about that, i didn't realise the convention. I only know you're a DJ because you advertise your nights here so i assumed it was acceptable to reference that. I don't know what HTH HAND means I'm afraid
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hiraethified
No you went further and decided that "I don't think you are representative of the average working man," like that's got anything to do with the discussion.
I'm banning you off this thread anyway. It really doesn't need any more disruptive nonsense.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Wow, that seems very harsh.
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There's context to this one. Again. Please take any further comment to the feedback forum.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Violent pro-factory farm barbarian protesters in Spain engage in a thuggish Trumpian effort to prevent democratic deliberation on regulating animal agriculture:
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ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Has anyone mentioned the new vegan burger that McDonalds are selling? It's bloody delicious and I'm not even a vegan. Think I prefer it to their regular burger, which is really just a soggy grey flattened blob
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I went to a sustainable farming conference and one lady there was virulently pro-factory farm. She spent most of her presentation on a political rant. I left after about 20 minutes because she hadn't spent a minute talking about her listed topic. As I was leaving, she pointed at me and said, "there goes one of those militant vegans." I just left because it was a waste of my time if she wasn't going to stay on topic. If I see her on the speaker list of future conferences, I'll avoid her.
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France moves to ban mass live-shredding of male chicks
Agriculture minister announces an end to cruel mass culling method, and castration of piglets without anaesthesia
Various countries have banned the shredding of male chicks. One of the cruellest parts of egg production looks like it is on the way out. The French are going to be checking the sex of eggs so that male chicks are not born so they don't have to be slaughtered.
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