Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Jamie Wyatt, May 5, 2014.

  1. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    No graphics but, after 14 home league games, our average this season is 1212. At the same point last season it was 1128. We have played the same number (5) of Tuesday games.

    The average for Tuesday games is 725 whilst for Saturday games it's 1483.
  2. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    A Royston fan at the replay started telling me that two or three thousand attendances are the norm at Dulwich. Carried on doing so even after I told him I was the club photographer and what our average gate is. "Well the match reports I've been studying must be wrong then."

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  3. Noss

    Noss Well-Known Member

    Welcome to 2017. Facts, based on certifiable evidence, are worth fuck all. We need to start publishing an attendance based on what we think would be acceptable to our sponsors.
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  4. Fingers

    Fingers From Tuscany SE22

  5. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    Here you go:

    2016/17 (23 home games – 15 so far)
    Average so far: 1208
    Tues (5 games so far): 725
    Sat/BH: 1449

    2015/16 (23 home games)
    After 15 games: 1202
    Season average: 1343
    Tues (6): 663
    Sat/BH: 1583

    2014/15 (23 home games)
    After 15 games: 928
    Season average: 1070
    Tues (6): 536
    Sat/BH: 1259

    2013/14 (23 home games)
    After 15 games: 627
    Season average: 667
    Tues (6): 544
    Sat/BH: 711

    2012/13 (21 home games) – Ryman South
    After 15 games: 402
    Season average: 491
    Tues (4): 560*
    Sat/BH: 474
    * includes highest (2012-2017) Tues gate of 1073 vs Maidstone
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2017
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  6. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Bromley has average attendance 1218 so far apparently.
  7. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    Why apparently. They either have or they haven't...
  8. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Because I took it from a source and who knows if its accurate.
  9. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    What was your source, and why would you not think it's accurate?
  10. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Footballwebpages. Because I dont know how often Bromley update it if at all. And because they give a different average for us by one than the one given above.
  11. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    Bromley is 1217 so far this season.
    This site is very good on stats like that:
    Turnstile League
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  12. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    Small sample obviously but interesting that the Tuesday attendances continue to go up but Saturday has slipped back a little. I wonder if some of the Saturday games started to push up against the point where people stopped enjoying it - certainly for me I've enjoyed the Tuesday games more with a bit more space.
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  13. Latahs

    Latahs Well-Known Member

    Looking at Lyhams (wonderful) graphs the suggestion from last season and the one before is that Saturday attendances increase after nye and toward the end of the year. As a result it's unlikely we'll see any real 'drop back' on last season. We're currently comparing an incomplete data set which due to the trends looks artificially low.

    The trend for Tuesday attendances is less clear but the fact it's already higher is very positive. I think Tuesday attendances are a more robust indicator of fan retention/ 'engagement'.
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  14. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    We're not because dcdulwich 's stats up there are for after 15 games not the whole season so we are down on the equivalent number of games last year for Saturdays (up on Tuesdays).

    We have played a lot of games already though - only 8 more home matches to play this season. So higher attendances after New Year might still be a partial answer.
  15. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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  16. Latahs

    Latahs Well-Known Member

    Ah I missed that, apologies
  17. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

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  18. scousedom

    scousedom Well-Known Member

    I'd agree with the points made above around Tuesday attendances perhaps being a better reflection of retained/engaged fans, and with the one about attendances peaking off once it becomes too full to enjoy the off-the-pitch side of things.

    One other data point that would be interesting to know around all this: what are the stats on season tickets? Have they gone up? And if so are they increasing in line with Tuesdays or with Saturdays attendance figures...? Looking at the 2013-16 period (because of the weird Tuesday data point in the 2012 sample), Saturdays have grown 27% year-on-year while Tuesdays have "only" grown 10%.

    Hamlet Attendances.jpg
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  19. Lyham

    Lyham Well-Known Member

  20. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    Well yes and no. I've given the overall average for each season up to game 15 (i.e. all games no matter when they were played in the week). The weekday and Sat/BH split is given for the whole season (or, obviously in 2016/17, the season so far).

    That means the table above (linked to below) is slightly wrong as the last two columns relate to the whole season - not just the first 15 games.

  21. scousedom

    scousedom Well-Known Member

    Accepting that, and that there might be some differences, the magnitude of the difference in growth in attendance Tuesday versus Saturday isn't going to change though is it? I mean, Saturday attendances will still have grown by 20-30% per year, while Tuesday ones will have been up by more like 10% per year. Which of these figures is closest to the rate of growth seen in season ticket numbers...?
  22. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

  23. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

    Attendance Dulwich Hamlet v Macclesfield Town - 2,834
    25th Febuary 2017 FA Trophy

    That would be our third highest attendance at the new ground (but happy to be corrected)
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  24. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    Sounds right. There were definitely two league attendances higher in 14/15: Hampton & Richmond Borough - 2856 and Maidstone - 3000
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  25. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    Incidentally, our home league average is now 1255 after 16 games. 2 more than at the same point last season.
    Unlikely we will exceed last season's average though as we will be playing 8 Tuesday games (at least) compared to 6 last time.
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  26. blueheaven

    blueheaven Well-Known Member

    Felt like a lot more than 2834 were there yesterday! The crowd (and queues) even at 2pm was unreal.

    Yesterday's crowd was higher than St Johnstone v Kilmarnock in the Scottish Premier League (2793).
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  27. clog

    clog she seems to like to nitpick and moan a lot

    We stood with the Macc fans in the second half and there was plenty of space, so there's your missing 166.
  28. Griff_Turnstile

    Griff_Turnstile Agenda confused turnstile operator

    Spot on Clog, noticed these spaces there from the stand as I got the regular "seems more than that " comments when finally finished at turnstiles in time to catch the Ash goal. That said believe only Tranmere in "Non-League" football had a bigger gate than us yesterday.
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  29. Posh 'n Proud

    Posh 'n Proud Well-Known Member

    We turned up at 2.40pm and walked straight in (after a detour). Well done to all.
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  30. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

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