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Atlantic Road/Electric Avenue murder/stabbings 12-01-08

xsunnysuex said:
Just said on the news it was the shop keeper that died. Tragic. :(
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I don't think that's true. Latest from PA News:

Detectives probing the murder of a young man stabbed in the heart following a grocer shop row are investigating possible links to an earlier incident.
Officers were called to Atlantic Road in Brixton, south London, at 7.40pm on
Saturday to reports of three men injured. A man believed to be aged 26 died at the scene and a post-mortem examination at Greenwich mortuary gave the cause of death as a stab wound to the heart.

Police believe they know who he is but are waiting for formal identification
and next of kin have been informed. Two male shop workers were treated for head injuries at King's College Hospital and discharged. It appears they may have been struck with blunt instruments rather than a knife, police said.
Police believe the attacks followed a row between a group of black men and the victims, who were all of Middle Eastern appearance, at a greengrocer in Atlantic Road shortly before 7.30pm.

The man who died was known to the shop owner and was visiting the store and the two other victims worked there. The suspects ran off. Police do not have a confirmed number of suspects or their ages to issue at this stage.
Officers are keeping an open mind about the motive - but believe the incident
may be linked to an altercation outside the same premises on Thursday.
An incident room has opened at Sutton under Detective Chief Inspector Mick
Duthie.

Mr Duthie said: "We would urge anyone who may have seen an altercation outside this premises at approximately 6.50pm on Thursday to come forward.
"It is also important that anyone who may have seen the incident on Saturday and has not yet already spoken to police to do so.
"The information you provide may prove crucial to this investigation."
Anyone who witnessed either incident should call the Incident Room on 020 8721 4155; or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.
No arrests have been made.
 
According to the Sun, the man who died was the owner's cousin, who was a student doctor. He wasn't even involved in the original dispute, on Thursday, over a stolen orange, he was just there to help out. :(
 
Ms T said:
According to the Sun, the man who died was the owner's cousin, who was a student doctor. He wasn't even involved in the original dispute, on Thursday, over a stolen orange, he was just there to help out. :(
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That really is quite shocking.:(
 
Yep, when I saw news they were interviewing the Afghani community there and it definitely seemed like it was one of them. They said their friend had been a trainee doctor back in Afghanistan and that they'd come here for a safer life.

Apparently his name was Kalil/Khalil Naseer (guessing the spelling)
 
It said in the Metro this morning that they were just stabbed and hit from behind - no argument or nothing. Just walked up behind them and attacked them. :(

Safe? Ha haha - what a bloody joke
 
trashpony said:
It said in the Metro this morning that they were just stabbed and hit from behind - no argument or nothing. Just walked up behind them and attacked them. :(

Safe? Ha haha - what a bloody joke
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Fuck! How terrifying!:eek:
 
That's got to be the stupidest murder I've ever heard of. Absolutely ridiculous if somebody lost a life for standing up to a shoplifter.
 
ovaltina said:
That's got to be the stupidest murder I've ever heard of. Absolutely ridiculous if somebody lost a life for standing up to a shoplifter.
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:confused:

I think you'll find most murders are stupid
 
ovaltina said:
That's got to be the stupidest murder I've ever heard of. Absolutely ridiculous if somebody lost a life for standing up to a shoplifter.
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this all sounds a little tabloid to me. Not sure why but the words 'protection' and 'racket' came unbidden into my mind.
 
Crispy said:
No confusion :confused: needed. All murders are stupid, but this was the stupidest
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well I can think of equally as stupid ones like being stabbed over the price of a can of coke, or being stabbed on a bus for asking someone to behave

All sick and all stupid


Anyway, out of curiosity, are there any cameras down that end of the street and if there are, would they have even picked anything up?
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
well I can think of equally as stupid ones like being stabbed over the price of a can of coke, or being stabbed on a bus for asking someone to behave

All sick and all stupid
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In the end though they aren't really "about" the can of coke, the orange or whatever. They're about face and street-respect and never backing down in public for fear of being everybody's bitch for the rest of your life.

Just as sad, but not quite as stupid - more a stupid or sad society we have made for ourselves than stupid or sad individuals. Or that's how I see it anyway.


Also - like newbie - I thought protection might come into this. I've no evidence to add to that, it's just what I think of when something like this happens at a shop or a pub, especially if people are having "incidents" and then coming back the next day with a few friends.
 
co-op said:
In the end though they aren't really "about" the can of coke, the orange or whatever. They're about face and street-respect and never backing down in public for fear of being everybody's bitch for the rest of your life.

Just as sad, but not quite as stupid - more a stupid or sad society we have made for ourselves than stupid or sad individuals. Or that's how I see it anyway.


Also - like newbie - I thought protection might come into this. I've no evidence to add to that, it's just what I think of when something like this happens at a shop or a pub, especially if people are having "incidents" and then coming back the next day with a few friends.
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Very true, the coke/orange/whatever is just an excuse.

Have heard about the protection side of things down there and it seems like a lot of the shops/stalls live in fear according to this morning's Metro

Other shop owners in the street, which was closed followign the attack at 7.30pm on Saturday, said they lived in fear of 'mafia-style gangs who walked into shops in the area expecting to be able to take what they wanted
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"Mafia style"? WTF?

I've no doubt that shopkeepers get harassed - and often racially abused (I've seen it first hand) - but I really doubt it's any kind of mass organised campaign of intimidation with protection rackets and its own hierarchy of hoods.
 
editor said:
"Mafia style"? WTF?

I've no doubt that shopkeepers get harassed - and often racially abused (I've seen it first hand) - but I really doubt it's any kind of mass organised campaign of intimidation with protection rackets and its own hierarchy of hoods.
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yes, exaggerating a bit I think but maybe to them, that's what it feels like although probably a mini-mafia of sorts - wannabe gangsters
 
Well, to be fair, there's a tendency for people to think of the mafia as a much more classy and organised force than it actually is.

But this stuff is more akin to bullying and steaming than a carefully planned stereotyped cosa nostra operation.
 
Mr Retro said:
I'm leaving Brixton soon. This kind of stuff makes me less sad to be going.
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Yeah, me too. I'm planning to leave at the end of February and I'm going to miss the place, but can do without this shit.
 
There's been a mini-media scrummage down to Atlantic Rd - Paddick was seen on TV at the scene too.

Least it's not being ignored like many of the murders here in the past.
 
They were always cool, the Kashmiri Yam Boys.
Before I left Brixton heard from many of the shops and stalls they were subject to steaming type raids, nowt they coud do about it, etc
But this.....
Utterly stupid
The market is cameraed to fuck - put there to slow down the crack dealers but they MUST be able to come up with something ie an image of 1 or more of the attackers, to lock these fuckwits up
 
editor said:
There's been a mini-media scrummage down to Atlantic Rd - Paddick was seen on TV at the scene too.

Least it's not being ignored like many of the murders here in the past.
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He launched his mayoral bid today at the town hall, apparently promising that if he doesn't cut crime by 20% he wont run again.
 
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