Oh dear, we are bad losers aren't we?Dubversion said:...and then db's despicable attempts to use it to perpetuate another battle...

Oh dear, we are bad losers aren't we?Dubversion said:...and then db's despicable attempts to use it to perpetuate another battle...

Really?zenie said:Db makes an arse of himself...

detective-boy said:Oh dear, we are bad losers aren't we?![]()
detective-boy said:Really?
It looked more like a number of other posters who made arses of themselves from over here ..![]()


nino_savatte said:I might have guessed it: the reason durutti started this thread was in order to get another cheap shot in about immigrants.
The Daily Mail, durutti? Now I know where you really stand. Of course, you can't resist the temptation to crap on about the mysterious "left" either.
Pitoyable.
tbaldwin said:Pathetic post nino.
durutti is not anti immigrant. But being a slightly more intelligent liberal than you he recognises that immigration is used to make the world a more unequal place.
Sadly though being a Liberal he opposes the idea of strict immigration controls.
But would you prefer it if this story wasnt on urban? You probably would wouldnt you?
butchersapron said:On top of quite deliberate HSE cutbacks in inspections, statisitic and record keeping etc

Given that I'm on a low wage and live ina 1-room flat without a garden or allotment within reach, I really don't see how I'm to blame for wanting cheap food in order to live and not growing it myself.durruti02 said:we all are guilty for wanting cheap food .. grow yer fking own!![]()
detective-boy said:And all exacerbated by incompetent firefighters ...
There probably wasn't anyone inside at all, it's just a story being put round to cover up their fuck-ups. *

are you sure???chymaera said:What the fuck do people expect since businesses are now allowed to self certificate their own fire safety. (And this under a labour government.)
detective-boy said:Another fire service fuck-up. The whole lot of them are out of control. (ETA: If they'd done their jobs right in the first place the fire precautions would have been in place to save lives. Idle, incompetent idiots.) *

durruti02 said:are you sure???
nino_savatte said:I might have guessed it: the reason durutti started this thread was in order to get another cheap shot in about immigrants.
The Daily Mail, durutti? Now I know where you really stand. Of course, you can't resist the temptation to crap on about the mysterious "left" either.
Pitoyable.
Dubversion said:yep - between durutti's initial attempt to make it an immigration issue, and then db's despicable attempts to use it to perpetuate another battle, it's a thread urban should be very proud of.
fair playchymaera said:It was a shock to me as well. But after the hotel fire in St Ives where certain elements of fire cover/equipment were found to be wanting, it also came to light that fire certification is now a do it yourself job.
didn't notice that at the time ..poster342002 said:Given that I'm on a low wage and live ina 1-room flat without a garden or allotment within reach, I really don't see how I'm to blame for wanting cheap food in order to live and not growing it myself.
_angel_ said:If you think about it groceries are just about the only thing that are cheap in this overpriced little island. I know the supermarkets are ripping off producers and it's bad but at the end of the day people in this country would be unable to eat (and have enough money left over to pay extortionate rates for housing, fuel, heating, transport etc etc.)
durruti02 said:a cheap shot?? fuck off you moron .. you defending this sort of industry then??
people working on minimum wage i the fields, often slaves to gang masters???
massive packing warehouses with NO sprinkler systems cos they cost too much
paying migrants peanuts??
having to sleep in the warehouse as they can not afford to work AND afford a roof over their heads????
this is acceptable in YOUR socialism YOUR society????
prick ..
chymaera said:If minimum wage legislation, and Health and Safety regulations were enforced properly, employers would not be employing immigrant labour.
i don't think we really need to bother .. maggie started it .. labour have continued it .. itis the free market .. and it has fucked this countrychymaera said:Ask the "labour" government.
What is 'not true' about the fact groceries are just about the only basic thing that aren't overpriced? I didn't say anything about our capacity for food production or otherwise.durruti02 said:so not true .. we have millions of acres that are NOT used for food ( set aside) without even getting into the animal protein versus veg protein arguement .. we have millions of out of work people
as i said above .. we need to make choices ..
p.s. supermarkets and govt are deliberately putting farmers out of business .. check out what LOrd Hoskins of northern foods and new labour scum thinks about it all
durruti02 said:a cheap shot?? fuck off you moron .. you defending this sort of industry then??
people working on minimum wage i the fields, often slaves to gang masters???
massive packing warehouses with NO sprinkler systems cos they cost too much
paying migrants peanuts??
having to sleep in the warehouse as they can not afford to work AND afford a roof over their heads????
this is acceptable in YOUR socialism YOUR society????
prick ..
this is acceptable in YOUR socialism YOUR society????
prick ..