At what age do you intend to retire?

[gentlegreen]

65 - 17 years to go.

I suppose I could split the difference and go for my self-sufficiency thing in about 8 years when I potentially have enough income from my savings to pay the bills - would hurt my work pension though ..

... unless I can find a wealthy woman to keep me ...

 

[fela fan]

You're one of the lucky ones with enough talent or intelligence or drive, to be able to combine your interests with your means of income.

Everyone has enough of that. Whether they uncover it is another matter. But if it's luck, then it's only luck that people have decided to take for themselves.

It's certainly not luck the way you meant the word!

 

[fela fan]

I will retire the minute i can.

So much to do, so many places to go, and all interspersed with days of doing nothing but pottering about. I really don't have time for work, but i need the bloody money.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Everyone has enough of that.

That's simply not true. No knock meant against such people, but we do not have equal resources. Not only that, but we can't all get our dream jobs, or else there'd be no one to clean your toilet.

 

[mentalchik]

That's simply not true. No knock meant against such people, but we do not have equal resources. Not only that, but we can't all get our dream jobs, or else there'd be no one to clean your toilet.

I agree...............if i thought i would be in the shitty job i am now till the day i retire i'll just walk into the sea now.....

 

[EastEnder]

I never want to retire. My ideal life plan would be to start my own business, build it up sufficiently that by the time I'm at "retirement age" I can leave the day to day running of it to the younger generation whilst I assume some cushy, executive role - chairman, maybe - and spend my days making the occasional big decision, taking afternoons off for no apparent reason, generally swanning around being self important, and going away on at least half a dozen lavish business trip/holidays a year.

 

[danny la rouge]

Even if I was loaded, I'd still want to work.

Yes, and if you are fortunate enough to be in a line of work you would do anyway even if you weren't being paid, then great. But many people are not in that position, and so look forward to retirement, when they intend to do all the things they wish they had more time for now.

 

[marty21]

I never want to retire. My ideal life plan would be to start my own business, build it up sufficiently that by the time I'm at "retirement age" I can leave the day to day running of it to the younger generation whilst I assume some cushy, executive role - chairman, maybe - and spend my days making the occasional big decision, taking afternoons off for no apparent reason, generally swanning around being self important, and going away on at least half a dozen lavish business trip/holidays a year.

i'll join you on the golf course

 

[Herbsman.]

Well...

Whatever age I am when I win the lottery.

However, it would help if I actually started playing it first.

 

[CharlieAddict]

when the things i love to do starts paying me bills.

meanwhile, i don't mind working until i get there.
hate bumming around, or living off someone/state. must be shit not to be independent.

 

[EastEnder]

i'll join you on the golf course

It's sweet of you to offer, but I'll be needing a caddy with a bit more experience.

 

[fela fan]

That's simply not true. No knock meant against such people, but we do not have equal resources. Not only that, but we can't all get our dream jobs, or else there'd be no one to clean your toilet.

It simply is true. And some people like toilet cleaning.

The luck you speak of is not really luck, it's just people going for it.

 

[Cloo]

Not given in much thought - about 60 ideally, I think. I wouldn't want to get too bored, and I will have a knackered hipbone, so I don't think working in my 70s is an option.

My dad and grandad have arranged some weird share thing in the freehold of a block of flats (which I don't quite get) for my siblings and I, that they reckon we should hold onto for about 30 years (ie when I'm 60) and will by then be worth a good retirement sum. The thing is not to forget about it in that time!

 

[zenie]

you need a sugar daddy!!!!!

well that'd be nice.

The day I die preferably, the idea of sitting on my arse doing nothing fills me with dread!

Who said I'll be sitting on my arse, much more fun things to do.

Even if I was loaded, I'd still want to work.

really?! If you had the money to go and do whatever you wanted you'd still want to work?

I will retire the minute i can.

So much to do, so many places to go, and all interspersed with days of doing nothing but pottering about. I really don't have time for work, but i need the bloody money.

This basically ^^^

I don't intend to retire and sit knitting with a blue rinse on, freezing cost cos I can't afford the winter heating bill, although that may still happen, I don't intend it to happen.

 

[EastEnder]

I don't intend to retire and sit knitting with a blue rinse on, freezing cost cos I can't afford the winter heating bill, although that may still happen, I don't intend it to happen.

Statistically, that's the most likely eventuality.

How many of todays blue rinsed, half frozen knitting types do you think planned to end up that way?

Most people have the optimistic notion that their twilight years will be rewarding and enjoyable, and that they'll somehow avoid the fate of the geriatric majority. It'll be others who spend their days shuffling from the unheated living room to the damp stained kitchen, to make lukewarm tea with used tea bags and out-of-date milk. No way will it be you who's only daily highlight is watching Cash in the Attic with a fresh hot water bottle and a half sucked mint imperial. Definitely not. That'll be other people.

 

[zenie]

Statistically, that's the most likely eventuality.

How many of todays blue rinsed, half frozen knitting types do you think planned to end up that way?

Most people have the optimistic notion that their twilight years will be rewarding and enjoyable, and that they'll somehow avoid the fate of the geriatric majority. It'll be others who spend their days shuffling from the unheated living room to the damp stained kitchen, to make lukewarm tea with used tea bags and out-of-date milk. No way will it be you who's only daily highlight is watching Cash in the Attic with a fresh hot water bottle and a half sucked mint imperial. Definitely not. That'll be other people.

Yeh but the thread title is 'When do you intend to retire.'

I'm not sure my body's got that long left in it tbh.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It simply is true. And some people like toilet cleaning.

The luck you speak of is not really luck, it's just people going for it.

It's the luck of having been born with certain useful gifts.

Have you ever worked at a truly shit job? And I don't mean teaching at some bad school: I mean getting up at 5 am to be at work at some shit labouring job before the sun comes up. There are people there who can't do much else, and who hate what it is that they do.

 

[marty21]

others who spend their days shuffling from the unheated living room to the damp stained kitchen, to make lukewarm tea with used tea bags and out-of-date milk. No way will it be you who's only daily highlight is watching Cash in the Attic with a fresh hot water bottle and a half sucked mint imperial.

sounds like a great weekend

 

[Funky_monks]

Have you ever worked at a truly shit job? And I don't mean teaching at some bad school: I mean getting up at 5 am to be at work at some shit labouring job before the sun comes up. There are people there who can't do much else, and who hate what it is that they do.

I've worked as a call-centre phone-jockey and a labourer - give me labouring any day!


I dunno when I plan to retire. I do know, I wouldnt want to be doing the job I do much past sixty, I think I'll have worn my body down by then.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

What is this thing you Earth people call... "retirement"?

I don't know, I never wanted to have to do stuff I didn't like so that I could eat and buy clothes and do other things I _do_ like, but I can't see many alternatives, and I can't see a point where I won't have to, so....

 

[editor]

Yes, and if you are fortunate enough to be in a line of work you would do anyway even if you weren't being paid, then great.

I was only speaking for myself, but I've done 'nuff shitty jobs in the past. Including cleaning toilets.

 

[soulman]

In some ways it sounds like you've retired already. And I don't mean that in a bad way...

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I was only speaking for myself, but I've done 'nuff shitty jobs in the past. Including cleaning toilets.

Me too, but both of us had the desire, drive and ability to get out of it, and go on to something that interested us more.

Lots of people don't have that, and they're stuck. They're the ones who look forward to retirement, understandably so.

 

[soulman]

The rat race

Given how much most people dislike their jobs, and the whole rat race shit, you'd think more would just walk away from it. But then I guess fear of the unknown can be more daunting than having to drag yourself in to the same job day in, day out, until you drop dead.

 

[DotCommunist]

Me too, but both of us had the desire, drive and ability to get out of it, and go on to something that interested us more.

Lots of people don't have that, and they're stuck. They're the ones who look forward to retirement, understandably so.

Right, you dynamic go-getters really put everyone else to shame.
Gosh Johnny can I feel your rugged individualism?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Right, you dynamic go-getters really put everyone else to shame.
Gosh Johnny can I feel your rugged individualism?

Not quite what I meant. What I meant was that I was lucky enough to be born with some abilities that would let me get a better job than the labouring jobs that I started out with. Other people aren't so lucky.

That's the whole point. Fela says anyone can end up with their dream job, it's just about getting out there and doing it. I'm saying that we all have different abilities, and we who are lucky enough to be able to get good jobs, should thank our lucky stars.

 

[DotCommunist]

Not quite what I meant. What I meant was that I was lucky enough to be born with some abilities that would let me get a better job than the labouring jobs that I started out with. Other people aren't so lucky.

That's the whole point. Fela says anyone can end up with their dream job, it's just about getting out there and doing it. I'm saying that we all have different abilities, and we who are lucky enough to be able to get good jobs, should thank our lucky stars.

Dangerously close to southparks gods n clods bit.

But then what do I know. I don't see anything lucky in having a good job. Unless your good job means a lot of financial security rather than a job you love but just covers the bills, there's no security. I find the earnest work ethic really fucking annoying also. Call me a fool but I'm petty sure it goes thusly: the harder you work the more boss earns.

 

[fela fan]

Not quite what I meant. What I meant was that I was lucky enough to be born with some abilities that would let me get a better job than the labouring jobs that I started out with. Other people aren't so lucky.

That's the whole point. Fela says anyone can end up with their dream job, it's just about getting out there and doing it. I'm saying that we all have different abilities, and we who are lucky enough to be able to get good jobs, should thank our lucky stars.

That's not what i said. I said everybody has within them creative juices that can be used.

As for these labouring jobs you talk of, i am certain that many people like their jobs. Being a gardener, a toilet cleaner, a road sweeper, a window cleaner, any of these kinds of jobs, has one big attraction: no shit from other people. No office politics. No having to do what you are told to do even though it's wrong or stupid. I could go on. But people with these jobs have a great level of freedom in their lives.

Now the only lucky thing here i'll grant you, is the education one gets. This will help or hinder a person in finding out what skills and abilities they have.

But for you to say that people aren't creative enough, or others are lucky to have this, is not right in my opinion.

 

[fela fan]

Dangerously close to southparks gods n clods bit.

But then what do I know. I don't see anything lucky in having a good job. Unless your good job means a lot of financial security rather than a job you love but just covers the bills, there's no security. I find the earnest work ethic really fucking annoying also. Call me a fool but I'm petty sure it goes thusly: the harder you work the more boss earns.

The only good job is no job. The next best job is when it is your vocation in life.

One of the best ways to spend time in life is through the medium of total laziness.

One of the most freedom-inspiring ways to live life is waking up in the morning with nothing you have to do.

I also observe that a lot of work just seems to be done so that work is being done...

 

[danny la rouge]

I was only speaking for myself

Of course. It's really the only person one can speak for.