At Least Scotland Never Qualified

[STFC]

So, if I 've got this right then the sweaties have so far supported Trinidad & Tobago, Paraguay, Sweden and Ecuador. Not doing too well are they? I make it 4-0 to England at the moment.

 

[Chorlton]

I make it 4-0 to England at the moment.

"things we never thought we'd hear in 2006; Part 1"

 

[bolshiebhoy]

I make it 4-0 to England at the moment.

Only for the ABE's proper. Those of us supporting Argentina as the team most designed to annoy the brits are actually sat at 4-4. Plus at least we get to watch entertaining games.

 

[Streathamite]

do you want to re-read my post in the context of the post it was replying to.

if you want to do that and contiue to move conversation onto the subject of perceived sectarianism in scottish football then i will be only to happy to discuss that with you, i just want to make sure that we are not un-necessarily running off on a tangent due to your inabilty to see the context of that reply.

http://urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4707500&postcount=74

It was not, as you may have thought, a dismissing of all acts of violence committed by scotsmen in the name of football, religion, monarchy, culloden and goat-worrying - it was rather a response to an englishman who was using the recent violence by a scotsman to alleviate himself to some higher moral ground

cheers

were you born that patronising and condescending, or did it come with the personality bypass? and I'd say there was a difference between an attck on a kid and one on a grown adult, myself?

 

[William of Walworth]

Only for the ABE's proper. Those of us supporting Argentina as the team most designed to annoy the brits are actually sat at 4-4. Plus at least we get to watch entertaining games.

I presume you at least a little bit support Argentina because they're an excellent team playing a (mainly) high standard of entertaining football?

And England aren't likely to get as far as meeting them anyway, so why not support Argentina (or another team?) for positive reasons?

I've asked this quite a few times and no ABE seems to have much of an answer.

 

[Streathamite]

Only for the ABE's proper. Those of us supporting Argentina as the team most designed to annoy the brits are actually sat at 4-4. Plus at least we get to watch entertaining games.

errmm...you ARE a 'brit', if such a thing exists. you may not be english, but you ARE one of the peoples of Britain - historically, ethnically, and by dint of laws of State.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

I presume you at least a little bit support Argentina because they're an excellent team playing a (mainly) high standard of entertaining football?

Eh yeah, that's why I said 'entertaining' because they are an excellent team playing some beautiful football. The only thing better than the football played in their 6 goal demolition of S&M was the awful twisted expressions on the faces of the English at work as we all watched it. Plus their fans are ten times as passionate as the english whatever Becks says.

 

[19sixtysix]

A Scot in London

(opens door and shouts..

Its only a game!

(retreats quickly and closes door)

 

[bolshiebhoy]

errmm...you ARE a 'brit', if such a thing exists. you may not be english, but you ARE one of the peoples of Britain - historically, ethnically, and by dint of laws of State.

Not that it matters really but I'm irish, from the bit that no longer enjoys the honour of being british run.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Its only a game!

Course it is mate and like most non-english in england I've quite happily watched the games alongside a majority english crowd with no bad blood at all. In my local me and a scottish bloke are the only two not wearing the 3 lions on matchdays but both our kids do as our wives are english. And yes it is all a bit of fun and I somehow doubt I'd celebrate an english loss by screaming 'loser' at my 6 year old. But I insist on my absolute right to look glum when England win

 

[William of Walworth]

Eh yeah, that's why I said 'entertaining' because they are an excellent team playing some beautiful football. The only thing better than the football played in their 6 goal demolition of S&M was the awful twisted expressions on the faces of the English at work as we all watched it. Plus their fans are ten times as passionate as the english whatever Becks says.

You're turning it into an ABE point STILL!

I wish I'd seen that 6-0. I wouldn't have got all bitter and twisted about it, I'd have enjoyed the spectacle and the skill, and I'd have taken my hat off to them for being good. Although someone here -- JTG? -- said Serbia were no more difficult to beat than the cones on the training ground, I'm sure myself that that as because they were paralysed by the genius of the masters. I seriously think Argentina are the best team and the likeliest to win it.

Dunno who the fuck our colleagues were, getting all bothered, but they sound like twats. Being fearful at the prospect of Argentina beating you is one thing, resenting them beating another (weaker) team comprehensively with good football is another.

I wonder what your reaction would be to an admittedly highly unlikely 3 or 4 goal victory for England against Portugal on Saturday, with the victory down to just better football?

I doubt it would be any more mature than was your English colleagues' resentment.

 

[19sixtysix]

But I insist on my absolute right to look glum when England win

To be honest I do understand. I may even have a little smile when a penaly is missed.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

I wonder what your reaction would be to an admittedly highly unlikely 3 or 4 goal victory for England against Portugal on Saturday, with the victory down to just better football?

To be honest it'd be a mix:

1) Glad to see good football. I was genuinely pleased to see Rooney play well against Ecuador as it's a joy to watch any truely gifted player ply their trade;
2) Relief that England are still in the competition because let's face it, living here , the competition would be less interesting if England weren't in it;
3) Pissed off with the inevitable arrogance of the fans & media.

 

[jammer]

at least scotland are a team on the ascendancy,this present england squad are an old squad on the way out,and they know it.
Nobody has mentioned that england have been given a virtual by into the quarter finals,who have you played?,sweden are a team in your quality and you couldnt beat them.

 

[jammer]

at least scotland are a team on the ascendancy,this present england squad are an old squad on the way out,and they know it.
Nobody has mentioned that england have been given a virtual by into the quarter finals,who have you played?,sweden are a team in your quality and you couldnt beat them.
going to a nice portuguese pub on saturday

 

[Fenian]

Right sorry if this has been said already, haven't read all thread:

I saw a craicing TV sketch on a Scots programme some years ago, a Scots guy talking to an English guy about the way the groups work out in the qualifying rounds, something like:

"When we get chosen it's Brasil, West Germany, Argentina, Italy, Brasil, Spain, Argentina, Spain, France, Brasil;
When England have to qualify it's Lapland, Melchester Rovers, and me and my mum!"

Well Ireland for the next one anyway. Though I'm pleased the St George's flag is being used not the union jack...

 

[Fenian]

The FA
25 Soho Square
London W1 4FA


Dear Sir,

Our Head Coach, Mr Sven-Goran Ericsson, has asked me, on the eve of our departure to Germany for the World Cup Finals, for which we have qualified, to ask our fellow Home Nations to come to our assistance so that England may be 100% sure of winning the World Cup.

As you are no doubt aware from the winning of the Rugby World Cup and the Ashes, England’s success boosts all British nations and we know how you all enjoyed basking in the reflected glory which bonds our ancient nations together.

To this end, we request and require that you furnish, forthwith, any information, which may aid us on our quest. We don’t expect to need it, you understand, but one never knows.

What we have in mind is tactical appraisals of our opponents, whom you may have encountered whilst failing to qualify yourselves. Foreign styles of play, underhand methods of influencing the referee, Latin diving, Teutonic bullying, you know the sort of thing. Also, if there is any advice of the legality of two apparently separate islands in the Caribbean forming a joint enterprise for the express purpose of winning a soccer match. In the capital here we find it quite extraordinary!

I know you all take great delight in the support of England whenever any of you manage a shock result, and am sure of the same fulsome support from you chaps in this instance.

You remain, our humble servants

Brian Barwick


The Football Association of Wales
11 / 12 Neptune Court,
Vanguard Way,
Cardiff CF24 5PJ
CYMRU


Dear Mr Barwick,

Thank you for your interesting and brilliant letter. As you know we are your nearest neighbours, and sharing a long border with you, know you more intimately and therefore love you more intimately than anybody else. How we enjoyed your Rugby victory! Bonfires were lit in remote areas all over rural Wales in celebration.

As you no doubt don’t know, all correspondence from Lloedr is translaed from Saes to Cymraeg in accordance with the Rules of our Association. I had your brave letter translated and passed it to Dafydd ab Sylwtlyhatesinglish hew is hedd of our tactical spying unit.

I am sori to haf to tell ewe that there was a coch up in the translation which meant that Dafydd, completely by accident, got the whole thing arseways and provided all your opponents with a dossier on your players instead. In particular, I have to warn you that your manager may be targeted by dusky beauties who may give him the bends while he goes diving as it were. Also watch out for Paraguayan grannies in the vacinity of your only hope.

As ever, if there is anything else we can do for you, do not hesitate to ask.

Twll dîn pob Sais

Mervyn Miseri



FA Ireland
80 Merrion Square
Dublin 2

Ah Brian how’s it going

All the lads here wish ye the very best in the World Cup. Sure don’t ye know that?
We always want England to do well. There has been too much old guff about history and bad blood and we should forget about all that. We have anyhow.

I mean, nowadays who is interested in Pope Adrian (the only English Pope) blessing the English invasion which took all our lands and divided it up amongst the English? Who wants to know about Cromwell putting the women and children of Drogheda and Wexford to the sword; the Penal Laws that outlawed the one true Catholic faith and the outlawing of the beloved Gaelic language. The crushing of the brave rebels in 1118, 1250, 1336, 1388 1542, 1612. 1798, 1848, 1916. Sure we have forgotten all about the Famine, where one million of us were starved to death, skin and bone with grass stain about our hungry mouths with pestilence rapine and disease stalking every corner of the land whilst our young men fought in the front lines of the trenches of your imperial wars.

Having forgotten all that, and the unfinished business in a corner of our land, we would of course be delighted to support England, and we will. However, you must be aware of our longstanding emigrant links with Seamus insert name of whoever the bastards are playing and so therefore, on this one occasion, our loyalties may be somewhat divided.

As a favour Brian: - my daughter is a big Man U fan and could you send over young Wayne’s birth cert (and his folks) so she can send him a birthday card?

Yours as ever

Seán Ó Blarney



The Scottish Football Association
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9AY


Dear Brian,


Fuck off you English cunts.


Hamish McSporran

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

at least scotland are a team on the ascendancy,this present england squad are an old squad on the way out,and they know it.
Nobody has mentioned that england have been given a virtual by into the quarter finals,who have you played?,sweden are a team in your quality and you couldnt beat them.

Except for Beckham and Neville, this claim is fundamentally untrue. Most of the squad are either very young like Walcott and Lennon, or in their mid 20s. The only reason it feels like they're old is that players like Gerrard and Owen started making names for themselves when they were very young.

 

[William of Walworth]

Except for Beckham and Neville, this claim is fundamentally untrue. Most of the squad are either very young like Walcott and Lennon, or in their mid 20s. The only reason it feels like they're old is that players like Gerrard and Owen started making names for themselves when they were very young.

Good points! Would have made similar ones myself but you did better ...

 

[William of Walworth]

To be honest it'd be a mix:

1) Glad to see good football. I was genuinely pleased to see Rooney play well against Ecuador as it's a joy to watch any truely gifted player ply their trade;
2) Relief that England are still in the competition because let's face it, living here , the competition would be less interesting if England weren't in it;
3) Pissed off with the inevitable arrogance of the fans & media.

Fair dos matey!! Can't argue with that

 

[iROBOT]

World Cup snub by Scots leader 'fuels anti-English racism'
By David Lister, Scotland Correspondent



AN ENGLAND football fan living in Scotland blamed the country’s First Minister yesterday for stoking anti-English racism after his windows were smashed because he was displaying the St George’s flag.
Amid rising fears that Scotland may be boycotted by tourists from south of the Border over Jack McConnell’s refusal to support England in the World Cup, Allan Robinson, 44, accused the First Minister of putting English people living in Scotland at risk.



Police said that they were investigating an “act of vandalism” on Mr Robinson’s home in Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, in which three windows were smashed as the opening game of the tournament got under way last Friday.

Anti-racism campaigners described the attack as “moronic”, but Mr Robinson, who is originally from Leeds and moved to Scotland five years ago, blamed the First Minister. “Me putting up a single flag . . . and my windows going through, I think it’s all to do with what Jack McConnell says.

“I was horrified by the attack. All three bedroom windows were smashed in. My girlfriend and I went down the shops and I was in my England strip. I got abuse hurled at me. I didn’t leave my house all weekend. I’m thinking it might be safer to move.”

The attack will further damage Scotland’s reputation as a welcoming and tolerant nation, already under scrutiny after the First Minister’s remarks. Asked last month whether he would be supporting England, Mr McConnell said: “No, I will not. Scotland is not there and that’s disappointing. And there are people who think that as First Minister I should automatically support England instead. But football is not about politics, so I will not be.”

The First Minister’s office denied that Mr McConnell had encouraged anti-Englishness. A spokesman refused to discuss the incident but said: “There is no place for racism in Scotland and we will do whatever we can to tackle that.” This week a group of 60 chartered surveyors from England cancelled a two-day conference at an hotel in Scotland because of Mr McConnell’s comments.

Tourism chiefs are concerned that the English may boycott Scotland after Mr McConnell’s remarks, but Visit Scotland, the tourist authority, said that, with one exception, there were no indications that this was happening.

Although Gordon Brown has said that he will be supporting England along with “two thirds of Scots”, most of the 400,000 English people living north of the Border will find that statistic hard to believe.

Sports shops across Scotland have struggled to cope with demand for Trinidad & Tobago strips and Jason Scotland, the Trinidadian striker who plays for St Johnstone, the Scottish first division team, has become a cult hero with a song in his name sweeping to the top of the charts.

Some bars are offering free drinks whenever England concede a goal and a sports shop in Angus is giving free golf balls to anybody wearing the strips of England’s opponents.

The Scottish Commission for Racial Equality has cautioned against anti-English racism, while schoolchildren who make anti-English remarks in class have been threatened with suspension. The letters pages of newspapers have been inun- dated with complaints about England’s World Cup “hysteria”and the endless coverage of Wayne Rooney’s foot.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2224705,00.html

Seems to be going too far...may need to invade again...

 

[colacho]

The FA
25 Soho Square
London W1 4FA


Dear Sir,

Our Head Coach, Mr Sven-Goran Ericsson, has asked me, on the eve of our departure to Germany for the World Cup Finals, for which we have qualified, to ask our fellow Home Nations to come to our assistance so that England may be 100% sure of winning the World Cup.

As you are no doubt aware from the winning of the Rugby World Cup and the Ashes, England’s success boosts all British nations and we know how you all enjoyed basking in the reflected glory which bonds our ancient nations together.

To this end, we request and require that you furnish, forthwith, any information, which may aid us on our quest. We don’t expect to need it, you understand, but one never knows.

What we have in mind is tactical appraisals of our opponents, whom you may have encountered whilst failing to qualify yourselves. Foreign styles of play, underhand methods of influencing the referee, Latin diving, Teutonic bullying, you know the sort of thing. Also, if there is any advice of the legality of two apparently separate islands in the Caribbean forming a joint enterprise for the express purpose of winning a soccer match. In the capital here we find it quite extraordinary!

I know you all take great delight in the support of England whenever any of you manage a shock result, and am sure of the same fulsome support from you chaps in this instance.

You remain, our humble servants

Brian Barwick


The Football Association of Wales
11 / 12 Neptune Court,
Vanguard Way,
Cardiff CF24 5PJ
CYMRU


Dear Mr Barwick,

Thank you for your interesting and brilliant letter. As you know we are your nearest neighbours, and sharing a long border with you, know you more intimately and therefore love you more intimately than anybody else. How we enjoyed your Rugby victory! Bonfires were lit in remote areas all over rural Wales in celebration.

As you no doubt don’t know, all correspondence from Lloedr is translaed from Saes to Cymraeg in accordance with the Rules of our Association. I had your brave letter translated and passed it to Dafydd ab Sylwtlyhatesinglish hew is hedd of our tactical spying unit.

I am sori to haf to tell ewe that there was a coch up in the translation which meant that Dafydd, completely by accident, got the whole thing arseways and provided all your opponents with a dossier on your players instead. In particular, I have to warn you that your manager may be targeted by dusky beauties who may give him the bends while he goes diving as it were. Also watch out for Paraguayan grannies in the vacinity of your only hope.

As ever, if there is anything else we can do for you, do not hesitate to ask.

Twll dîn pob Sais

Mervyn Miseri



FA Ireland
80 Merrion Square
Dublin 2

Ah Brian how’s it going

All the lads here wish ye the very best in the World Cup. Sure don’t ye know that?
We always want England to do well. There has been too much old guff about history and bad blood and we should forget about all that. We have anyhow.

I mean, nowadays who is interested in Pope Adrian (the only English Pope) blessing the English invasion which took all our lands and divided it up amongst the English? Who wants to know about Cromwell putting the women and children of Drogheda and Wexford to the sword; the Penal Laws that outlawed the one true Catholic faith and the outlawing of the beloved Gaelic language. The crushing of the brave rebels in 1118, 1250, 1336, 1388 1542, 1612. 1798, 1848, 1916. Sure we have forgotten all about the Famine, where one million of us were starved to death, skin and bone with grass stain about our hungry mouths with pestilence rapine and disease stalking every corner of the land whilst our young men fought in the front lines of the trenches of your imperial wars.

Having forgotten all that, and the unfinished business in a corner of our land, we would of course be delighted to support England, and we will. However, you must be aware of our longstanding emigrant links with Seamus insert name of whoever the bastards are playing and so therefore, on this one occasion, our loyalties may be somewhat divided.

As a favour Brian: - my daughter is a big Man U fan and could you send over young Wayne’s birth cert (and his folks) so she can send him a birthday card?

Yours as ever

Seán Ó Blarney



The Scottish Football Association
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9AY


Dear Brian,


Fuck off you English cunts.


Hamish McSporran

Genius!

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Good points! Would have made similar ones myself but you did better ...

Plus we've got players like Reo Coker, Anton Ferdinand, Dean Ashton, plus various at Boro and Spuds, amongst whom there must be a few decent players. The immediate future is reasonably bright...

 

[Harold Hill]

Plus we've got players like Reo Coker, Anton Ferdinand, Dean Ashton, plus various at Boro and Spuds, amongst whom there must be a few decent players. The immediate future is reasonably bright...

Don't know why you bothered. They proved what an idiot they were in that single post.

 

[Streathamite]

Not that it matters really but I'm irish, from the bit that no longer enjoys the honour of being british run.

sorry, my bad, always thought you were a sweaty. dunno why.

 

[Streathamite]

at least scotland are a team on the ascendancy,this present england squad are an old squad on the way out,and they know it.
Nobody has mentioned that england have been given a virtual by into the quarter finals,who have you played?,sweden are a team in your quality and you couldnt beat them.

err...paraguay have qualified for the last 3 world cups and that's more than I can say for a certain nation somewhere to the north of carlisle, and ecuador were good enough to finish second in their group.
and like renegade dog said - balls are they old

 

[pk]

The FA
25 Soho Square
London W1 4FA


Dear Sir, ... (had to clip it, but it should be kept here for posterity)

Best post I've seen here, for ever.

Nice one Fenian!