Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
CHRIST!!!!Geri said:
Bastards!
"Assaulted" girl hanging by the cash machine at Tesco
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Bastards!
posterseveralnumbers said:
Giles said:
While I do very much agree with hendo's post, it IS worth remembering that the above two posts do identify one big problem -- the more frequent the scams, the more deterred people get from giving to people who might genuinely (honestly) be in need ...
I mean I know the scammers are very much in need (of a kind) as well, but you know what I -- and they -- are getting at ...
suzee blue cheese
Well-Known Member
Raging dependency is a terrible thing for sure, however, the destructive impact isn't confined soley to the sufferer. It's not unreasonable imo for people to express frustration at being scammed or robbed. We're all human beings, subject to human responses.
It's a lose, lose situation all round.
It's a lose, lose situation all round.
Yeah, if I didn't give a shit it wouldn't make me so angry. My heart goes out to her but I'm helpless to do anything. She won't get help for herself and if you give her money you can GUARANTEE it's going on heroin. A compassionate response is simply not possible and I find that incredibly frustrating. She doesn't want clothes/food etc. She just wants scag money.suzee blue cheese said:
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
It is unfortunate and very sad - I'm not averse to buying travel cards off addicts. I tell myself that even though they are spending it on drugs, at least they're getting throught the day and not having to committ violent crime to do it.
Red Faction
Allez Les Rouges
Orang Utan said:
ive heard the 'just got out of prison' story once
and i gave him a fiver- cos he had a big bag with him saying H.M. Brixton Prison
and i figured he was telling the truth
do any of you see the fellow outside corpus christi church on brixton hill
opposite brixton water lane?
theres a bloke there who wears a green white + orange jacket
i remember about a year ago he was selling the big issue
and he was telling me how he changed his life around
he's stopped using heroin + he's stopped eating food off the street that people throw at him
i see him again from time to time
but he's too off his face to know whats going on
poor fellow
Isn't the main problem that, as far as I know, Brixton has no injectable heroin service for the treatment of opiate dependence? Result: a vulnerable women such as this one is driven into the hands of the dealers where she must scam and whore and steal and cheat to furnish the dealer with his income.
Advantages of a heroin prescribing service:
Advantages of a heroin prescribing service:
Given the absence of a Brixton heroin prescribing service I don't see what's wrong with giving this woman money to buy heroin. Isn't it better for her to accept drug money from a generous stranger than to sell her body down a dark ally?
i accept the arguement but i just dont agree with that.
i am well aware of the pull of heroin, however i'd hate to be the one that gave her the money for a hit that killed her.
bit simplistic, but surely getting off heroin would be better than having it prescribed?
have you seen her btw? i dont mean to be harsh but a career in prostitution, back street or otherwise, surely does not await this poor woman?
i am well aware of the pull of heroin, however i'd hate to be the one that gave her the money for a hit that killed her.
bit simplistic, but surely getting off heroin would be better than having it prescribed?
have you seen her btw? i dont mean to be harsh but a career in prostitution, back street or otherwise, surely does not await this poor woman?
First time she approached me I just offered to take her to the police station, she then said she had to get home to get her insulin because she was diabetic, I then offered to take her to my diabetic friend's house and have some of his. She was pretty reluctant to take up either offer.
These days I just dodge anyone trying to accost me on the street be they nuns or junkies.
These days I just dodge anyone trying to accost me on the street be they nuns or junkies.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
You suggesting that she's too ugly to be a prostitute? How ignorant.Dan U said:
I know someone who has been done the same way in Central London - for £50.
They saw the same woman (I don't know if it's this one) a week later, and just told her how disgusted they were. They didn't really care about the money, just that they probably wouldn't help someone else in a similar situation if it happened again.
I'd been asked in Central London about 8 years ago, but gave nothing as I had nothing at the time.
They saw the same woman (I don't know if it's this one) a week later, and just told her how disgusted they were. They didn't really care about the money, just that they probably wouldn't help someone else in a similar situation if it happened again.
I'd been asked in Central London about 8 years ago, but gave nothing as I had nothing at the time.
billythefish
toad licker
Sorry for late post: only just found the thread.
I've been approached by the girl (see original post) once at Barclays cashpoint, second outside the Ritzy.
First time, I had my car just around the corner, called her bluff and offered to drive her to Kent. She made excuses and ran away.
Second time, I was heavily drunk, but offered to buy her the travel card rather than give cash. She started to follow me to the station but had mysteriously peeled off into the crowd around the entrance to the market.
I would never give money, but always buy what it is they want it for (within reason
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P.S. - All released convicts from HMP Brixton are given money to pay for the fare to their required address (most are compelled to live in a hostel or agreed address for the remains of their sentence).
I've been approached by the girl (see original post) once at Barclays cashpoint, second outside the Ritzy.
First time, I had my car just around the corner, called her bluff and offered to drive her to Kent. She made excuses and ran away.
Second time, I was heavily drunk, but offered to buy her the travel card rather than give cash. She started to follow me to the station but had mysteriously peeled off into the crowd around the entrance to the market.
I would never give money, but always buy what it is they want it for (within reason
)P.S. - All released convicts from HMP Brixton are given money to pay for the fare to their required address (most are compelled to live in a hostel or agreed address for the remains of their sentence).
Red Faction said:do any of you see the fellow outside corpus christi church on brixton hill
opposite brixton water lane?
theres a bloke there who wears a green white + orange jacket
i remember about a year ago he was selling the big issue
and he was telling me how he changed his life around
he's stopped using heroin + he's stopped eating food off the street that people throw at him
i see him again from time to time
but he's too off his face to know whats going on
poor fellow
he used to live outside my bloke! I saw him round the offie the other day for the first time in a while (i moved) and he did look worse for wear. n didn't have a big issue.
suzee blue cheese
Well-Known Member
There's a tendency sometimes when reading threads on this topic, to bung every addict into the category of someone who's long since abandoned any sense of dignity or shame. So I think the point needs to be made that there are many others who manage to keep it together, go to work and pay their way just like anyone else. Or clean up. They just don't tend to be quite so visible.
Hmm. I recognise all these people described above, the one that concerns me the most is the waving arms new guy, he is quite scary... He looks pretty normal, kind of like an art student but I saw him scare the shit out this Asian guy on Brixton high st, looked like he was fitting actually...
I saw the 'assaulted' girl once and crossed the road predicting what was coming. I feel sorry for the orange and green bomber jacket junkie, he's quite polite and looks really sad, one sunday morning saw him in a corner shop, he was buying lighter gas... There's one woman who's really annoying me at the moment, she's on a crutch and wobbles up and down Brixton hill begging, she's really persistent and I saw her being quite aggressive with an old lady the other day, not nice.
I don't know, it's very depressing and sad, to be honest it makes me want to move to somewhere with less of an aggressive begging issue, I get pretty nervous when I get hassled.
I saw the 'assaulted' girl once and crossed the road predicting what was coming. I feel sorry for the orange and green bomber jacket junkie, he's quite polite and looks really sad, one sunday morning saw him in a corner shop, he was buying lighter gas... There's one woman who's really annoying me at the moment, she's on a crutch and wobbles up and down Brixton hill begging, she's really persistent and I saw her being quite aggressive with an old lady the other day, not nice.
I don't know, it's very depressing and sad, to be honest it makes me want to move to somewhere with less of an aggressive begging issue, I get pretty nervous when I get hassled.
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
It's a tragedy - whoever it happens to, to see someone reduced to that.
If you feel bad about not giving her (or others like her) money, save it and donate it to a drugs or homeless charity. Then it will be used properly to help this girl as opposed to keeping her pushed down there in hell.
If you feel bad about not giving her (or others like her) money, save it and donate it to a drugs or homeless charity. Then it will be used properly to help this girl as opposed to keeping her pushed down there in hell.
the girl in question's name is Dawn. I kicked her (and I mean kicked her!) off my doorstep a few months back for shooting up in my door way. I'm sorry if that offends some people, but I bet you'd think differently if you found used needles in your front yard and have to put up with addicts and dealers right outside your front window every day.
There are so many junkies now in Brixton I have given up even giving small change to ANYONE. If they say they're stranded in Brixton without any cash point them to the police station...they'll help them out if they have been robbed.
There are so many junkies now in Brixton I have given up even giving small change to ANYONE. If they say they're stranded in Brixton without any cash point them to the police station...they'll help them out if they have been robbed.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Is that the one who stands in the way, waving his arms around (as you say) and asking for cash - and then hurling abuse and swearing at those who don't give him any?Manmasi said:
RushcroftRoader
Well-Known Member
Has anyone had "I am a Brazilian just out of jail today. I have no money, I am not a junkie" one recently?
He grabbed my arm to stop me walking away the oher day and was really aggressive when I ignored him.
He grabbed my arm to stop me walking away the oher day and was really aggressive when I ignored him.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Don't know about that, but there used to be a guy who used to hang around the tesco carpark before they closed off the pedestrian entrance/exit to it in Porden Road. He once got in front of me asking for money and saying "it's no problem" 
and kept barring my way whichever way I tried to step to get around him.
and kept barring my way whichever way I tried to step to get around him.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
This man has been mentioned already by someone who works with the vulnerable/homeless/addictsRushcroftRoader said:
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3825515&postcount=53
Okay okay... on topic I once had a chat with the girl talked about she was crying and saying she needed to get to Uxbridge to a hostel and needed money for travel and toiletries (she was outside boots) I know Uxbridge quite well ( unfortunately ) and after talking about it it became clear she didnt. I offered to take her into boots and get her what it was she wanted but she didnt want to know. So i told her i knew she was lying gave her a quid for her effort and moved on.
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