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Assassin's Creed 2...

The Groke

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...Seems to have fixed most, if not all that was wrong with the original.

Let's face it - the first game was a wonderful concept poured into a fantastic engine with smart controls and one of the best realised sandbox cities ever seen in a game.

It did however neglect to include the "game" part.

90 minutes into the original and you had pretty much seen everything it had to offer - every mechanic to be learned which you then repeated ad-nauseum until - if like me - you turned it off 5 hours in and never went back.

Now the sequel seems to have got a grip. The city is back and better than ever, but the introduction of a tighter story, stronger, narrative-based gameplay and a wealth of new mechanics, new tasks, skills to learn and upgrades to buy and earn seems to suggest that this time, the game matches up to the technology.

Much more of a slow-burner than the last one, it invests more in scene-setting and the characters and takes a while to find it's feet, but is all the better for it.

There are PoP: Sands-of-time-style challenges, more ways to stalk and actually assassinate your targets rather than just brawling with everyone, much improved hiding/crowd-blending mechanics and...you can swim. (thank fuck)

If you liked the original, this is essential. If like me you thought the original was a squandered opportunity, then I recommend you give the franchise a second chance.

...of course, I am still only 6 hours or so in and I still reserve the right to u-turn on this judgement should the game drop the ball.
 
To add - one of those copies is for me; I will actually be buying it now I am convinced it is a decent game. I got burned on the first one...

:mad:
 
Yeah, but Groke's right about the longevity - you do exactly the same thing time after time, and personally I think some of the combat controls were badly implemented (there's one move which if you time it wrong makes Altair sheath his sword, not useful in the middle of a fight)

Still, it does have an amazing engine, and a proper 'Woah!' moment the first time you arrive at Damascus and it does the whole swooping camera thing...
 
and then you go back to Jerusalem, then back to Damascus, then back to Jerusalem again. Then you give up and play Mirror's Edge instead.
 
I still play Creed, so I'm not saying it's a shite game, just a little samey.

I should probably by Edge... I loved the demo, and I have the main character as my PS3 wallpaper...
 
I still play Creed, so I'm not saying it's a shite game, just a little samey.

I should probably by Edge... I loved the demo, and I have the main character as my PS3 wallpaper...

I enjoyed Mirror's Edge, but that one gets pretty samey, too :(

Any section with fighting just involves you dying, frustratingly, repeatedly, until you find the right way to go. Repeat ad nauseam.
 
I still play Creed, so I'm not saying it's a shite game, just a little samey.

I know. I've got a feeling we did this discussion (about the "go here, do this, go here do that" nature of - some - gaming) oh, about 2 years ago, so let's not again.

I really enjoyed the first one, it suits my style and pacing of gameplay. I already know I'm going to like the second.

*leaps from roof and assassinates The Groke*

:p :D
 
I enjoyed Mirror's Edge, but that one gets pretty samey, too :(

Any section with fighting just involves you dying, frustratingly, repeatedly, until you find the right way to go. Repeat ad nauseam.

I'd probably just get it for the extra download levels, an image of which Cripsy linked to when I had a thread about graphic styles...

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All run and jump stuff which apparently allows you to properly develop your parkour flow...
 
does it still include that bollock stupid idea of being in a device that connects you to your past self and thus destroys any ambience the game might have.

Middle ages cult of the assassins game = cool.

stupid scifi subplot = fail.
 
does it still include that bollock stupid idea of being in a device that connects you to your past self and thus destroys any ambience the game might have.

Yes.
And it is a stupid idea - the setting itself is enough.

That said, once you have got through the intro which picks up almost immediately after the first finishes, you can almost completely ignore the sci-fi nonsense...it doesn't intrude much into the game.
 
i'll give this a miss. the stupid sf stuff ruined the game, which was already as dull as dishwater anyway. Besides dragon age is out this week.
 
Dragon Age (on the consoles) has seemingly had some pretty average reviews, including being called "substantially inferior" to the PC version. :(
 
does it still include that bollock stupid idea of being in a device that connects you to your past self and thus destroys any ambience the game might have.

Middle ages cult of the assassins game = cool.

stupid scifi subplot = fail.

I really liked that aspect, but then I'm quite fond of sci-fi nonsense....
 
Dragon Age (on the consoles) has seemingly had some pretty average reviews, including being called "substantially inferior" to the PC version. :(


Having played 65 hours so far on PC (and still a ways off finishing!) I think the console would be a poor port if just on the control side of things.

Add to that the fact that the console version supposedly look/perform substantially inferior too...
 
Indeed. Although apparently, they've done something to patch the consoles' control system, by all accounts, it's still not anything like as good as the PC.

Shame, as I wanted to play it... but don't have a PC. Assassin's Creed II it is, then.

Fuck getting it off Amazon, though. Their latest delivery estimates are for the 26th if you pay for 1st class postage. I think I'll go to a shop. I can afford the extra £3...
 
Still loving this - if anything, it keeps getting better and more engaging!


Now I have to crack it, go back and play the last 20 hours of Dragon Age, reclaim my PS3 from my friend and finish Demon's Souls, then tackle Super Mario Bros Wii.

Sheesh - I really wish they would stagger the AAA releases more evenly.

:rolleyes:
 
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