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Ashley Madison - my martial affair exposure - I blame the hackers (impact team) for my divorce

Puddy_Tat said:
and hotmail.gov.uk is likely to be bollocks as well for similar reasons.
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yep, definately bollocks..

http://www.hcidata.co.uk/register-dot-gov-dot-uk.htm

The only organisations which can register a .gov.uk domain name are:

  • UK government and devolved administration departments and agencies
  • local and regional government bodies, including town councils, parish councils and community councils
  • other associated and NDPB organisations and projects.
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Unless you have downloaded the dataset yourself and verified the checksums, its wise to consider any "excerpts" reported from the leak as complete bollocks.

E2A: The key in question to verify is 6E50 3F39 BA6A EAAD D81D ECFF 2437 3CD5 74AB AA38
 
A woman called a radio station who told her that her husband was on the site.

I hope at least if people are being identified, it is by their credit card details rather than the email they submitted.

Not sure people should be "being outed" really, while unethical to cheat, it isn't actually illegal.
 
sim667 said:
Whats the point in targeting someone whose identity is revealed? The info is in the public domain!
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Despite that the leak is out, the spouse of the person may not know, so the blackmailer says, pay me or I will tell your wife / husband.

eta: while the info is on the web I doubt many people have or can access it.
 
I have to say, this thread is all very light and jokey considering it is about arsehole hackers doing something really shitty. Even if you think people should be publicly shamed for ethical transgressions between them and their partner (I don't, and don't think so even if the suicide stories turn out not to be true), it's important to remember that a lot of people in this database come from other countries where the rules on marriage are different, and the ethical conundrums a bit different. There was some story about a gay Saudi floating around on the internet yesterday - currently planning to leave the country and never return, for obvious reasons. The situation in India is also going to be awful for a lot of people. Remember a lot of Indian people didn't choose their partners in any meaningful way, which to my mind makes cheating a bit of a different thing anyway. But also women will be seriously punished for transgressions like this, almost certainly with violence in some cases, but definitely becoming social/economic outcasts. It's very grim, and I can't help hoping the perpetrators suffer for it, one way or another.
 
Brainaddict I think that's pretty much spot on. The hackers could have done all sorts to destroy the site, shame the owners and even pulled up hypocrite politicians etc in a more responsible way by being a bit more incisive with the data. As it is lots of people who may have been no more then a little curious face all sorts of shit.
 
Yeah but this isn't a chance meeting with someone but your partner and falling in love etc, this is people who have actively chosen to seek out infidelity. If you go down that road you have to accept there is a chance you may get caught out, the manner in which you are caught out it somewhat irrelevant.

Sure, hacking the site and releasing the data is a nasty business and it makes you wonder who the hackers think they are because they seem to setting themselves up as some sort of moral guardians, which is fucked to say the least.

I think its possible to be very critical of the hack as well as having limited sympathy for those who find themselves compromised. Of course situations differ from country to country but the site is very clear what it is about and those who have opted into it knew what they were getting themselves in to.
 
Teaboy said:
Yeah but this isn't a chance meeting with someone but your partner and falling in love etc, this is people who have actively chosen to seek out infidelity. If you go down that road you have to accept there is a chance you may get caught out, the manner in which you are caught out it somewhat irrelevant.

Sure, hacking the site and releasing the data is a nasty business and it makes you wonder who the hackers think they are because they seem to setting themselves up as some sort of moral guardians, which is fucked to say the least.

I think its possible to be very critical of the hack as well as having limited sympathy for those who find themselves compromised. Of course situations differ from country to country but the site is very clear what it is about and those who have opted into it knew what they were getting themselves in to.
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yeh it was somewhere in the t&c that your personal information might be shared with the rest of the english-speaking world and possibly people speaking other languages too.
 
Teaboy said:
Yeah but this isn't a chance meeting with someone but your partner and falling in love etc, this is people who have actively chosen to seek out infidelity. If you go down that road you have to accept there is a chance you may get caught out, the manner in which you are caught out it somewhat irrelevant.

Sure, hacking the site and releasing the data is a nasty business and it makes you wonder who the hackers think they are because they seem to setting themselves up as some sort of moral guardians, which is fucked to say the least.

I think its possible to be very critical of the hack as well as having limited sympathy for those who find themselves compromised. Of course situations differ from country to country but the site is very clear what it is about and those who have opted into it knew what they were getting themselves in to.
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What if they were forcibly married to someone that was abusive?
 
Also, even in the Western world, this will probably destroy a fair few families who might have been better off together. Can you really say that every marriage in which someone cheats should be exposed to see if it can survive the spotlight of publicity on the cheating? It's not just the cheaters who are going to suffer is it? And some of them may never have actually met anyone - just thought about it and browsed the site for a bit of excitement. You don't have to respect them for it, but that doesn't mean their marriages should be destroyed. It's a fucking awful thing to do. Personally I would encourage people not to look at or spread the data. Its probably futile, but still, bear this in mind: it's none of your fucking business.
 
Teaboy said:
as well as having limited sympathy for those who find themselves compromised.
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Gosh, you must know an awful lot about the lives of all those millions of people, to have decided they all deserve what they get. And that their partners and children must deserve it as well. What about cases where the partner already knew about the infidelity and had decided to forgive? How's it being broadcast all over the world going to help them?

As for people knowing what they had opted into - I believe the site made specific promises about not storing data that could compromise people.
 
Brainaddict said:
Also, even in the Western world, this will probably destroy a fair few families who might have been better off together. Can you really say that every marriage in which someone cheats should be exposed to see if it can survive the spotlight of publicity on the cheating? It's not just the cheaters who are going to suffer is it? And some of them may never have actually met anyone - just thought about it and browsed the site for a bit of excitement. You don't have to respect them for it, but that doesn't mean their marriages should be destroyed. It's a fucking awful thing to do. Personally I would encourage people not to look at or spread the data. Its probably futile, but still, bear this in mind: it's none of your fucking business.
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I agree totally with this. But if you go down that road you have to accept that you may get found out, that's just the way it is. If you've stuck your details on this website and you've been found out, you've only got yourself to blame.

Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it a good thing but the whole concept of the site is deceit and dishonesty - live by the sword etc.

I do appreciate many situations are different and in other countries the consequence of this hack is potentially far reaching.
 
Brainaddict said:
Also, even in the Western world, this will probably destroy a fair few families who might have been better off together. Can you really say that every marriage in which someone cheats should be exposed to see if it can survive the spotlight of publicity on the cheating? It's not just the cheaters who are going to suffer is it? And some of them may never have actually met anyone - just thought about it and browsed the site for a bit of excitement. You don't have to respect them for it, but that doesn't mean their marriages should be destroyed. It's a fucking awful thing to do. Personally I would encourage people not to look at or spread the data. Its probably futile, but still, bear this in mind: it's none of your fucking business.
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This.
 
Brainaddict said:
Gosh, you must know an awful lot about the lives of all those millions of people, to have decided they all deserve what they get. And that their partners and children must deserve it as well. What about cases where the partner already knew about the infidelity and had decided to forgive? How's it being broadcast all over the world going to help them?

As for people knowing what they had opted into - I believe the site made specific promises about not storing data that could compromise people.
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I have a lot of sympathy for the families who get caught up in this and all the lives potentially ruined, but again, if you have decided to opt into this game of deceit and dishonesty, you knew exactly what is was about and that's where the blame lies. Even if they thought the data wasn't being stored, so what? How does that change anything. Are we saying it's OK to cheat and lie as long as you're not found out?

Personally I don't care what people got up to on this site but I come back to my point that its no good moaning and whinging if you get found out by someone who does care.

There is one sure way to make sure your details were not on this website.
 
Teaboy said:
I have a lot of sympathy for the families who get caught up in this and all the lives potentially ruined, but again, if you have decided to opt into this game of deceit and dishonesty, you knew exactly what is was about and that's where the blame lies. .
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The blame for this information getting out lies first and foremost with the people who hacked the site.
 
Teaboy said:
Are we saying it's OK to cheat and lie as long as your not found out?
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No. Just that it's not your business, it's not the public's business, it's not the business of some shithead of a hacker on the other side of the world whose mummy pissed him off by cheating to broadcast what you did, it's not anyone's business except those people directly involved.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
The blame for this information getting out lies first and foremost with the people who hacked the site.
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No, it lies with the people who uploaded their info. The hackers are cunts of the first order, which should go without saying.

I'll try and explain further. Recently I had a friend who was trying to conduct two relationships at the same time, eventually one of the girls just cut him off and he was convinced that someone had told her and he was furious. Now, I don't know what happened but I tried explaining that he got caught out having an affair because he was having as affair, you can't go around blaming other people if you get caught out. It was simple if you don't want to get caught having an affair don't have one. Needless to say it fell on death ears.
 
Brainaddict said:
No. Just that it's not your business, it's not the public's business, it's not the business of some shithead of a hacker on the other side of the world whose mummy pissed him off by cheating to broadcast what you did, it's not anyone's business except those people directly involved.
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I agree 100% with this.
 
Teaboy said:
I have a lot of sympathy for the families who get caught up in this and all the lives potentially ruined, but again, if you have decided to opt into this game of deceit and dishonesty, you knew exactly what is was about and that's where the blame lies. Even if they thought the data wasn't being stored, so what? How does that change anything. Are we saying it's OK to cheat and lie as long as you're not found out?

Personally I don't care what people got up to on this site but I come back to my point that its no good moaning and whinging if you get found out by someone who does care.

There is one sure way to make sure your details were not on this website.
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your details are on dozens of websites. would your previous purchases from amazon all be morally sound? or what you've watched on netflix? or ...? etc.
 
Teaboy said:
No, it lies with the people who uploaded their info. The hackers are cunts of the first order, which should go without saying.

I'll try and explain further. Recently I had a friend who was trying to conduct two relationships at the same time, eventually one of the girls just cut him off and he was convinced that someone had told her and he was furious. Now, I don't know what happened but I tried explaining that he got caught out having an affair because he was having as affair, you can't go around blaming other people if you get caught out. It was simple if you don't want to get caught having an affair don't have one. Needless to say it fell on death ears.
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No. Its lies with the hackers.
Like it or not, the people registered and having affairs are the victims.
 
Teaboy said:
No, it lies with the people who uploaded their info. The hackers are cunts of the first order, which should go without saying.

I'll try and explain further. Recently I had a friend who was trying to conduct two relationships at the same time, eventually one of the girls just cut him off and he was convinced that someone had told her and he was furious. Now, I don't know what happened but I tried explaining that he got caught out having an affair because he was having as affair, you can't go around blaming other people if you get caught out. It was simple if you don't want to get caught having an affair don't have one. Needless to say it fell on death ears.
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Right. Here you have a specific, not a class. As a class, the cheaters on this website will not fall into any one category like this. There will be a spectrum of motivations, ranging from nasty and deceitful to others who are in some way trying to save a marriage. That begs all kinds of questions about whether or not such marriages should be saved, etc, but these are all questions that people have to work out, and quite possibly get wrong, for themselves.

You can't generalise from a specific case to a class like that.
 
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