Ashes To Ashes
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
the bastards (almost) always get the best lines
okay start, hopefully all the 'knowing' stuff will diminish rapidly on the coming episodes, and we'll just be watching The Professionals with a sexy chick doing an ironic commentary over it
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
comic drama, like shameless
Reno
The In Kraut
The 70's were pretty cool, they've just been marketed to us as uncool for the last couple of decades by reducing them to a few visual cliches.
Reno
The In Kraut
Any decade when black civil rights, feminism and gay rights went mainstream is pretty cool to me. Most of the clothes, design, art, films and much of the music I like best are from the 70's, so you are talking to the wrong person. Of the four and a half decades that I lived through it was by far the coolest.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
they weren't that cool, i remember them
i liked gene hunt's cowboy boots - very of the time - don't remember any police officers wearing them, but they were popular among young men at the time
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
like the computer jiggery pokery of Tower Bridge on to Millenium Millls
Aye. All I kept thinking was that the river doesn't turn that sharply that close to Tower Bridge to get a view like that.
Not up to LoM on first viewing, but there was enough there to keep me watching.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
you were too young for the sixties n too cynical for the nineties then
(obviously I'm skipping over the eighties cos only a madman in a long black raincoat would call them the coolest decade)
clandestino
no llevar papel
the sixties.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
"Fire up the Quattro".
What a line. Alan Partridge on steroids.
Heh... indeed. I had a double take at that point... just to be sure they hadn't switched to Chambers Wharf.
What a line. Alan Partridge on steroids.
like the computer jiggery pokery of Tower Bridge on to Millenium Millls
Heh... indeed. I had a double take at that point... just to be sure they hadn't switched to Chambers Wharf.
Aye. All I kept thinking was that the river doesn't turn that sharply that close to Tower Bridge to get a view like that.
It would have to turn very sharply indeed... Millennium Mills isn't actually on the Thames.
(sorry, I'll stop geeking about abandoned buildings now 
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poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
I enjoyed it. I think there's more more humour in this series compared with LoM, but not to the point where it's pure self-mockery. Captured the 80s quite well, too, so far. Gene Hunt is more of a mainstream hero in this, I think, and much less the dubious and sinister anti-hero he was in LoM.
A good start - looking forward to more.
A good start - looking forward to more.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
No, not good. It's a cover version, a tribute act.
Gene Hunt was an amusing secondary character in LOM, but he has to do too much work here. It would be pretty hard to live up to the dramatic entrance scenes that he has every five minutes. Simms is a very subtle, nuanced actor who managed to sell the ambiguity of his 1973 role. The bird from Spooks doesn't do that, although to be fair, that's partly because the plot premise can't supply any tension about whether the setting is real.
LoM got the drabness of the 70s bang to rights, while A2A bombarded one with pop-culcha references that felt plucked from a Channel 5 talking heads nostalgia programme.
But comparisons aside, it just wasn't a very good show.
Gene Hunt was an amusing secondary character in LOM, but he has to do too much work here. It would be pretty hard to live up to the dramatic entrance scenes that he has every five minutes. Simms is a very subtle, nuanced actor who managed to sell the ambiguity of his 1973 role. The bird from Spooks doesn't do that, although to be fair, that's partly because the plot premise can't supply any tension about whether the setting is real.
LoM got the drabness of the 70s bang to rights, while A2A bombarded one with pop-culcha references that felt plucked from a Channel 5 talking heads nostalgia programme.
But comparisons aside, it just wasn't a very good show.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
The Zippy & George scene made my hair stand on end. Very nightmarish. An instantly recognisable 'cosy' part of 80s culture, but turned on it's head and made sinister.
Rollem
two kinds of wonderful
i thought the zippy and george scene was shit personally
i dont know, its gonna be a slow burner for i think.
love that its set in 1981, with the brixton riots and race issues going on - great juxtapoistion to the unthinking racism that was present in Life on Mars
but felt at times that the whole 'gene hunt' thing was a bit over done - like when the music built up just for him to come out of his office. a bit overworked for me. though at the same time i am intrigued by the message that sam died coz he didn't listen to gene "stick with hunt and you'll be ok"
whilst i love the change to the female being the lead, in a time of power suits and padded shoulders, i am worried about the woman. she grated a bit. guess the lack of confusion as to what's happened was a bit of a downer, her insider knowledge just proved a bit disapointing. though i did love the looks on the faces of ray and chris when she talks about going home, clear throw back to the tyler years
but overall it did feel a bit too silly. bit too slapstick which i think got in the way of the darker stuff at times.
i'll hold judgement for now....
Exactly how I feel. Not giving up on it yet but I dont think this series is going to be a patch on LoM.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Agree there - although I think it reflects how Drake's view of him differs from Sam's. Whereas Sam saw Gene as a reactionary old throwback (which he is) and a bit of a joke, Drake finds him fascinating and almost admires him as an imaginary charecter come to life. She not-quite hero worships Gene, but it's not far off - and the feel of the show brings that across (albeit a bit too heavy-handedly at times).
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
No, none that I checked (sad bastard that I am). I thought same Old Scene came out much earlier, but it was an 80/81 hit after all.
I'll be watching attentively tho.
Now the Ford Quattro, that WAS too early
Artie Fufkin
Polymer Records
yes, Stranglers 'No More Heroes' was released in 1977.
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