As a celtic fan living in manchester...

[moose]

1970. The black and white part of the red, black and white crowd were priests and nuns, on a free ticket

It's changed in recent years, though. Especially since Ferguson came, and it became more multinational.

 

[Karen Eliot]

37 years ago supporting MU was a catholic thing. That's what you're saying?

 

[moose]

To a large degree, yes, but even then it was becoming less so.

 

[Karen Eliot]

How large was it?

 

[Red Faction]

i'd like to go to one of them places that me grandfather (4th generation irish) used to tell me about where horses walked through housing estates and they had to put them in the lift to get the coal up to the fourth floor - and they were so poor they didn't have a 3rd floor, so the horse would start to sing....


it was the brits that shot the horse in the end - thats why i support celtic now


so stick your 'plastic' up your Pog ma thon


i've been listening to enough wolfe tones, dubliners and cranberries to know more about irish politics than you ever will

post of the year!!

 

[Karen Eliot]

To a large degree, yes, but even then it was becoming less so.

So pre-1970 supporting MU was a pro-catholic thing?

 

[Ich bin ein Mod]

Just because a certain club may have a large section of fans of a particular faith it does not follow that supporting that club is inherently pro-faith.

 

[Karen Eliot]

So you disagree with moose and his/her characterisation?

Which club do you support and how old are you btw? Were you at MU pre-1970 and are you a MU 'fan?'

 

[Karen Eliot]

Are you there ich benn?

 

[N_igma]

Does it really matter that much?

The fact is a lot of clubs like Manchester, Liverpool and Celtic have a lot of Irish and therefore Catholic support due to the Irish diaspora after the Great Famine.

 

[Karen Eliot]

It matters to me. And i'd like to hear what the people who posted the things mean by them thank you. What they mean by MU being a catholic thing pre-1970.

It's all about the famine though i'm sure.

 

[N_igma]

It is. Most Irish immigrants to the UK settled in Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham and London. There's well known Irish/Catholic communities there.

 

[Karen Eliot]

...and supported MU up til 1970. Get a grip.

 

[N_igma]

...and supported MU up til 1970. Get a grip.

No but their children and their children did.

Fuck sake Celtic was formed by a Monk who wanted a club that voiced the interests of Irish Catholic immigrants to Glasgow.

 

[Karen Eliot]

So what? Do you still wear a hood and tonsure?

 

[Karen Eliot]

Go celtics!!!

 

[N_igma]

Do you still wear a hood and tonsure?

 

[Karen Eliot]

Some catholic you.

 

[N_igma]

Some catholic you.

I know what they are, it's just I don't have a clue how it's relevant to anything we've been discussing.

 

[Karen Eliot]

Good god, i'm talking about MU in 1970 and you give me:

"Fuck sake Celtic was formed by a Monk..."

 

[N_igma]

Good god, i'm talking about MU in 1970 and you give me:

"Fuck sake Celtic was formed by a Monk..."

I was giving you examples of how religion can be incorporated into football and their supporters.

 

[Karen Eliot]

And i was saying that it had very little to do with MU in 1970. See how this goes?

 

[Karen Eliot]

I was giving you examples of how religion can be incorporated into football and their supporters.

Formed by a monk = good. What about O' Rasputin?

 

[Ich bin ein Mod]

Are you there ich benn?

No oddly enough I have better things to do than stay awake all night answering numerous questions about myself.

I wasn't disagreeing with moose, more your leap that lots of catholic fans=pro-catholic club.

And I'm a 23 year old Celtic fan from Glasgow. So no, I didn't support Man Utd pre-70s, or anytime. Anything else that's "crucial" to this debate? What about you? What do you have for breakfast? Do you get enough omega 3 fatty acids in your diet? Do you believe religion is the dogs bollocks or just a load of shite? We could go on all day

 

[revol68]

yes everyone over here knows the that man utd were seen as a loosely catholic but it's only really bigotted prods that wouldn't support an English team on such weak grounds. The issue isn't just a vague catholicism, it's the irish nationalism linked to Celtic.

Real fenians and huns wouldn't support an English team, just Rangers or Celtic.

 

[lights.out.london]

When I started going Manchester did symbolise a religious sentiment. And why do you think we always used to play Celtic in friendlies?

Aye. And the joint fanzine, Our Day Will Come...

 

[revol68]

Aye. And the joint fanzine, Our Day Will Come...

ah yeah clearly representative of the whole club? Oh wait it was few people and I even know one of of it's contributors.
what about the fact United fans sing the billy boys with different lyrics?

The simple fact is that prods and catholics support man utd in Ireland, whilst supporting Celtic and Rangers is the equivalent of getting a big neon sign saying what your religious/ethno national background is.

 

[zed]

Fucking brilliant thread by the way. Really enjoyed reading this one.

Chorlton should start more threads.

Anyway, so we're agreed then ...?

English fans are inbred, kebab-eating, tattooed monkeys.

Man Utd are fenian sympathisers.

Everyone else is a cunt.

 

[N_igma]

Nah, not me. I support Liverpool, Celtic and Newry FC. Can't be a cunt like that!

 

[lights.out.london]

Cut me and I bleed green and white and I don't care what the animals say.

And I have a soft spot for Crystal Palace. Yooooooooooooooo slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagz.