Perhaps. I'm sure some would. I know I've not been able to go to smaller gigs I'd like to go to because I've overspent on a big ticket, more than once.Except they very probably wouldn't do the latter even if the former wasn't happening.
Risky new bands wouldn't be playing the same size venues as 'classic' bands playing classic albums, so that point is a non starter.Venues and festivals booking bands are more likely to book safe old bands than more risky new bands.
I'd suggest that the market for premium 'classic album' gigs doesn't overlap too much with the market for fresh new acts.People with limited budgets who've just spent 50 quid on a ticket to see [band] playing [caononical album] won't go and see the 5 (or more) up and coming bands that they could have seen for the same price.
Some older bands are still making new music. It's up to them. maybe they're just as happy playing their old stuff and why shouldn't they be?Older bands could even be making new music, either together or with new bands, but know they'll get paid better doing their hits.
I saw them at a festival fairly recently. They were so dour they managed to reverse the effects of the drugs I'd just taken.There is also the question of where future classic albums are going to come from if everyone is going to see Ned's Atomic Dustbin performing "God Fodder" in its entirety.
The xx have just done a record breaking 7 days at Brixton Academy so I don't think we have to worry too much about there not being enough popular bands about in the future, although we'll all probably be watching holo-gigz by then.There is also the question of where future classic albums are going to come from if everyone is going to see Ned's Atomic Dustbin performing "God Fodder" in its entirety.
depends on the band really - my local 150 capacity venue mainly has tribute acts and old indie bands playing their hits.Risky new bands wouldn't be playing the same size venues as 'classic' bands playing classic albums, so that point is a non starter.
Not at all - someone upthread said something about the glut of shoegaze reformations we've seen recently being driven by younger fans - there's a massive crossover.I'd suggest that the market for premium 'classic album' gigs doesn't overlap too much with the market for fresh new acts.
of course it's up to them. But the bare economics of - new material: less money, old material: get paid means more of them are making that decision than perhaps would otherwise.Some older bands are still making new music. It's up to them. maybe they're just as happy playing their old stuff and why shouldn't they be?
Hang on - tribute acts are an entirely different thing - but a lot of those are made up of young musicians who - I dare say - contain members who are using them to fund their own bands writing original material. Or maybe they're learning their craft like musicians in the past traipsed around the country playing sets of covers. All good in my book.depends on the band really - my local 150 capacity venue mainly has tribute acts and old indie bands playing their hits.
Not at all - someone upthread said something about the glut of shoegaze reformations we've seen recently being driven by younger fans - there's a massive crossover.
of course it's up to them. But the bare economics of - new material: less money, old material: get paid means more of them are making that decision than perhaps would otherwise.
We're all 40+ men in this thread though


Give that there is clearly no shortage of new acts coming through, what's the problem? I'm not a fan of tribute acts at all, but I'd rather see live musicians than DJs and that's pretty much the choice in smaller venues. Fashions will change and there may well be more young original bands, but anything that keeps the smaller venues in business is OK by me.I dont think tribute acts are a different thing, they're totally part of the same nostalgia boom. Just a less cool part of it.
I don't think it is clear. That's the problem.Give that there is clearly no shortage of new acts coming through, what's the problem?
I went to PE Nation of Millions and Pixies Doolittle....i know those records backwards and it was pure joy hearing them played... I know some didnt enjoy the gigs as much as me, so it seems to split opinion. I dont see the problem with it on any level. give the people what they want.Its the weirdness of it I was alluding to. I imagine the more you like the LP the more you like the gig?
This week Ive been playing the first Pixies album - i thought id rinsed it but it still sounded amazing - so nice i played it twice!absolutely, you can't blame the artists for wanting to get paid - but I think these kinds of shows (and the focus on reformed bands from the past more widely) is indicative of a sickly, nostalgic musical culture which is actively harming new bands, and new music being made.
A symptom rather than a cause, but one that should be rejected IMO.
On what basis are you implying that there is some kind of shortage of new acts? I'm a live promoter and I've never found any shortage of interesting new acts, and the global best sellers are hardly dominated by heritage acts.I don't think it is clear. That's the problem.
Best-selling artists worldwide in 2015
1) Adele
2) Ed Sheeran
3) Taylor Swift
4) Justin Bieber
5) One Direction
6) Coldplay
7) Maroon 5
8) Sam Smith
9) Drake
10) The Weeknd
Best-selling artists worldwide in 2016
1. Drake
2. David Bowie
3. Coldplay
4. Adele
5. Justin Bieber
6. Twenty One Pilots
7. Beyonce
8. Rihanna
9. Prince
10. The Weeknd
"Needs citation"There isn't a shortage of new acts, but there is a shortage of support for new acts.
What do you mean by that? There's plenty of bands that have risen up recently - The 1975 being a good example.There isn't a shortage of new acts, but there is a shortage of support for new acts.
Me too, they were excellent. As was Iggy and the Stooges doing Raw Power supported by Suicide doing their first album in 2010 at Hammersmith Odeon. I'd never seen any of those bands before so I'm really glad I went when I did, esp that now for different reasons there's no chance I'll ever get to see them again.I saw Sonic Youth doing Daydream Nation at the Roundhouse. It was a lot of fun.
I dunno, maybe it's different in London but the live music scene for young bands in the rest of the country is mostly pretty desperate. Venues closing, gigs half empty, promoters making losses on most of their shows.What do you mean by that? There's plenty of bands that have risen up recently - The 1975 being a good example.
Ohh I forgot I did that one too. Fuck, it was great.I've been to a half dozen or so of these, some of which have been mentioned upthread, but The Stooges playing Funhouse is the best gig I've ever seen in that size venue (Hammersmith Apollo).
But that's got BUGGER ALL to do with big bands occasionally doing classic album tours. If anything those guaranteed sell out shows give the venues a much needed revenue boost.I dunno, maybe it's different in London but the live music scene for young bands in the rest of the country is mostly pretty desperate. Venues closing, gigs half empty, promoters making losses on most of their shows.
Err, the 1975's debut album was only released in September 2013.The two 'breakthrough' acts you've managed to dredge up (the xx and the 1975) broke through half a decade ago btw.