Artificial Intelligence

[fela fan]

I think we're at cross words here.

this bit - "But we continue to avoid ultimate freedom, we put this in the hands of others - god, computers, institutions, any non-human concepts." alludes to the notion that ultimate freedom is one without any boundries except human conciousness. Am I right fela? It makes more sense in the context of hislater post, and makes my comment pointless.

Yeah i think you're right! The only boundaries to the freedom i talk of are self-imposed ones, for whatever reasons. For total freedom can only come with full responsibility for oneself. By submitting one's decision-making to a God or a computer or an institution, one is giving away their responsibility and freedom.

The strange thing is that humans think they want freedom, but usually end up locking themselves in a cage and putting the key in some corner somewhere.

AI (or any machine) may add to our lives, but it can never take over a free person's life.

 

[Stigmata]

if you have not read Vernor Vinge famouse speach on singularity, which i am sure you have if not it can be found here http://mindstalk.net/vinge/vinge-sing.html
Alot of Isaac Asimov's novels seem outdated, but at the time caused some debate(i could imagine) its in the same vain that your trying to claim these threads will seem dated or am i missing your point?

Interesting link, but that's not quite what I meant. I meant that pretty much all human debate and academic thought will be rendered obsolete by machines that are simply much cleverer than any human being could hope to become through natural means.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

fuckit

i'm gonna take lotas drugs and watch the ghost in the shell movies back to back

 

[kakuma]

Interesting link, but that's not quite what I meant. I meant that pretty much all human debate and academic thought will be rendered obsolete by machines that are simply much cleverer than any human being could hope to become through natural means.

so do you believe in the soul??

could a robot have a soul?

i don't see why not, but it's pretty strange thought, if we can make a soul with technology, would we let on to them?

 

[fela fan]

so do you believe in the soul??

could a robot have a soul?

i don't see why not, but it's pretty strange thought, if we can make a soul with technology, would we let on to them?

A soul needs blood.

 

[Stigmata]

so do you believe in the soul??

could a robot have a soul?

i don't see why not, but it's pretty strange thought, if we can make a soul with technology, would we let on to them?

Pass.

Actually, I don't know how much theologians have to say about what a soul is, where it comes from and how it gets into the human body. It's not something scientific, so I guess if they turn around and tell us they've got souls, we might as well take their word for it. Why shouldn't metaphysical stuff apply to robots as well as humans?

 

[kakuma]

A soul needs blood.

you can't just say that then bugger off

 

[fela fan]

you can't just say that then bugger off

I can and did!

In fact i'm buggering off proper to the mountains for a few days to feed the soul, to replenish myself.

Of what possible use would a robot have in lying in a hammock in a valley smoking a spliff and listening to the wildlife...?

Nah, machines don't have blood mate, don't have a soul.

[mind you, some humans don't appear to have a soul, so perhaps humans can become robots, but definitely not the other way round]

 

[Crispy]

Of what possible use would a robot have in lying in a hammock in a valley smoking a spliff and listening to the wildlife...?

Yeah, but you and me probably find calculating Pi to 2,000,000,000,000 places really dull. If we create artificial intelligence, it will be a new kind, not a replica (even if we use human brains as a template)

 

[rich!]

the great thing about my day job is you realise A.I. is irrelevant.

 

[Jonti]

If we create a machine with sentience ... self aware ...

How would you make a self-aware machine? What's your theory?

Anyway, isn't the old fashioned method (of replicating awareness) cheaper and more fun? I don't see it going out of fashion any time soon.

 

[In Bloom]

In fact i'm buggering off proper to the mountains for a few days to feed the soul

Does this mean you're going to go around drinking the blood of passing mountain folk?

 

[fela fan]

Does this mean you're going to go around drinking the blood of passing mountain folk?

No it doesn't, but when they come out of the mountains and offer me their grass, then i shall be partaking of that.

 

[kakuma]

No it doesn't, but when they come out of the mountains and offer me their grass, then i shall be partaking of that.

i havent smoked a spliff for literally a year

 

[Backatcha Bandit]