Argentina look pretty good

[squeegee]

Could this finally be the year when the ambatross of the fat dancing middle-aged bloke in the stands today is finally lifted off Argentinian football, footballing and cultural god that he is?

That fat dancing middle-aged bloke was the greatest player ever. A god to the Argentinians. There are players in the Argie team with tattoos of him, and he's there in the stands. Being of Neapolitan descent its hard to explain to the whiter than white English fans just what Diego Armando Maradona means to footballing fans of Boca, Napoli and Argentina. A great man of great passion. But of course all the Eengleesh see a a coke-snorting cheat (cos England never cheat, do they Crouchy?).

Argentina are the best team in this world cup by a country mile, only the Czechs and Spanish close in passing game.

The difference in the play is that the Argie players pass to each other even when marked knowing that they can keep possession. They make intelligent movement off the ball and are a strong physical team also.

The way the world cup goes the best team rarely wins but even though I have divided loyalties between England and Italy (though the bigoted little englander mentality always leaves me rooting for the eye-ties) I am hoping to see Argentina crowned champion and see big ears Lineker suffer watching Maradona lift the trophy again (cos the team idolise him and it's guaranteed they'll let him)

I say Lineker cos he tried to trash Diego in a sly way in their documentary insisting he admitted THAT cheating goal was cheating. The very same Linker who barely mentioned Crouch's dread-ful foul in the box.

Argentina

 

[squeegee]

And Diego's celebration for the second goal was priceless stuff.

 

[Concrete Meadow]

Argies Of The World Unite!

In the run-up to the last world cup I was living in Argentina and became pretty fond of the national team. Back then they were playing some of the most breathtaking football I've ever seen. Everyone was convinced they were going to win the world cup and rule world football for a decade or so on the back of some of the young players playing for Boca and River (Riquelme, D'Alessandro, Luduena, Tevez etc...).

We were wrong four years ago but today's performance, and that goal, looks like it could be the start of a great team. I really don't care anymore how far England go as long as we keep on seeing stuff like that.

This is probably the right time to point to what is probably the greatest nutmeg ever from Riquelme back when he was playing for Boca. It's the first thing on this small compilation:

Couldn't agree more mate.

This is even better than watching Arg win the Olympics (with almost the same team, sans Riquelme and Messi of course). All the tears of the last world cup weren't shed for nothing, no?

I've been waiting for today for a long time Vamos Argentina!

.

 

[Flashman]

That fat dancing middle-aged bloke was the greatest player ever. A god to the Argentinians. There are players in the Argie team with tattoos of him, and he's there in the stands. Being of Neapolitan descent its hard to explain to the whiter than white English fans just what Diego Armando Maradona means to footballing fans of Boca, Napoli and Argentina. A great man of great passion. But of course all the Eengleesh see a a coke-snorting cheat (cos England never cheat, do they Crouchy?).

Argentina are the best team in this world cup by a country mile, only the Czechs and Spanish close in passing game.

The difference in the play is that the Argie players pass to each other even when marked knowing that they can keep possession. They make intelligent movement off the ball and are a strong physical team also.

The way the world cup goes the best team rarely wins but even though I have divided loyalties between England and Italy (though the bigoted little englander mentality always leaves me rooting for the eye-ties) I am hoping to see Argentina crowned champion and see big ears Lineker suffer watching Maradona lift the trophy again (cos the team idolise him and it's guaranteed they'll let him)

I say Lineker cos he tried to trash Diego in a sly way in their documentary insisting he admitted THAT cheating goal was cheating. The very same Linker who barely mentioned Crouch's dread-ful foul in the box.

Argentina

I'm English. Diego was the best.

 

[grubby local]

am in total awe. I walked up to an argy in the street today just to shake his hand and tell him that was the best attacking footy i've ever seen.

can anyone do me a favour, not being in the uk and all that? i'd love to have a copy of the beeb highlights to downoad ....

gx

 

[Flashman]

am in total awe. I walked up to an argy in the street today just to shake his hand and tell him that was the best attacking footy i've ever seen.

can anyone do me a favour, not being in the uk and all that? i'd love to have a copy of the beeb highlights to downoad ....

gx

UKNova will have it tomorrow I'd have thought.

 

[JTG]

I'm English. Diego was the best.

captain and cheerleader of the most cynical and dirty side ever to disgrace a world cup final.

He's a cunt, being so talented makes it worse.

 

[Flashman]

captain and cheerleader of the most cynical and dirty side ever to disgrace a world cup final.

He's a cunt, being so talented makes it worse.

Still the best though, cunt or not. Sometimes you have to wade through the shit to find the diamond, or summat.

 

[Genghis Cohen]

am in total awe. I walked up to an argy in the street today just to shake his hand and tell him that was the best attacking footy i've ever seen.

can anyone do me a favour, not being in the uk and all that? i'd love to have a copy of the beeb highlights to downoad ....

gx

eztvefnet has full matches.

 

[JTG]

Still the best though, cunt or not. Sometimes you have to wade through the shit to find the diamond, or summat.

sometimes you can't appreciate the diamond 'cos it's covered in shit.

 

[Flashman]

sometimes you can't appreciate the diamond 'cos it's covered in shit.

Okay, we'll leave it there eh.

 

[grubby local]

UKnova has a suspicious lookung UK in the title. will that work?
gx

 

[Flashman]

UKnova has a suspicious lookung UK in the title. will that work?
gx

The UK bit just means it's UK TV that people have uploaded.

Try it and see, you just have to register. Seems to be down at the moment though for some reason. Sorry. I'll get me coat.

 

[grubby local]

ta gx

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

am in total awe. I walked up to an argy in the street today just to shake his hand and tell him that was the best attacking footy i've ever seen.

can anyone do me a favour, not being in the uk and all that? i'd love to have a copy of the beeb highlights to downoad ....

gx

Demonoid has a few packages up at the moment. And it's open for new members at the moment too.

 

[astronaut]

And Diego's celebration for the second goal was priceless stuff.

The man obviously recognizes masterful art when he sees it.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

www.fbtz.com still has good torrent links

 

[Choc]

i said to bf yesterday that now the whole of england and germany and other nations are sitting on the toilet and doing a huge poo....scared shitless!

errr, they have a point/ argentina played amaaazing!

 

[squeegee]

I'm English. Diego was the best.

Fair play. And I know proper England football fans will agree, and to be in a pub with such fans (hasn't often happened) inspires me to support the team from the land of my birth. It's those other donkeys (and let's face it, every club and country has them) who shift the goal posts and invoke double standards when it suits them.

Saw a Mirror news report yesterday more or less laughing at the Crouch goal with not even a hint that it could be construed as cheating. I know this is the worst of nationalism/patriotism and hypocrisy and I suppose you have to grin and bear it, though it does make me feel an outsider when I see it or hear it and it happens alot here, especially on tv.

Lineker is such a dick with his dopey smirk, at least Wrighty is honest and upfront about the cheating (and recognises a kindred spirit in Dieguito after that mad goal celebration)

Still, as good as Argentina are playing, I think England would still fair well against them as they need the big games to bring the best out of them. But Argentina play the game the way true footy fans like to see it played so I hope they haven't peaked already.

And Diego...what can you say? From world's greatest player to world's greatest talisman.

As the Neapolitans used to sing

"Maradona, é megli'e Pelé..... (Maradona is better then Pelé)"

 

[stavros]

That fat dancing middle-aged bloke was the greatest player ever. A god to the Argentinians. There are players in the Argie team with tattoos of him, and he's there in the stands. Being of Neapolitan descent its hard to explain to the whiter than white English fans just what Diego Armando Maradona means to footballing fans of Boca, Napoli and Argentina. A great man of great passion. But of course all the Eengleesh see a a coke-snorting cheat (cos England never cheat, do they Crouchy?).

Erm, I described him as such with my tongue firmly in my cheek. I know what a jaw-dropping player he was and what he means the Argetinian people, and I wasn't trying to belittle him at all. We can all debate 'til the cows come whether he was better than Pele, or indeed Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Moore or Garrincha, but I don't think anyone holds such a cultural relevance over their country's game than him. Believe me, I am not a little-Englander.

 

[squeegee]

Erm, I described him as such with my tongue firmly in my cheek. I know what a jaw-dropping player he was and what he means the Argetinian people, and I wasn't trying to belittle him at all. We can all debate 'til the cows come whether he was better than Pele, or indeed Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Moore or Garrincha, but I don't think anyone holds such a cultural relevance over their country's game than him. Believe me, I am not a little-Englander.

I know that, mate, sorry. My mistake. Saw the "fat middle-aged" bit and my Pavlovian response from the many anti-Maradona jibes I've heard and read over the years took over. Truth be told he and Pelé were different types of players and revered equally in their own lands.

But who else but Diego could have celebrated a goal in that way

 

[Harold Hill]

i said to bf yesterday that now the whole of england and germany and other nations are sitting on the toilet and doing a huge poo....scared shitless!

errr, they have a point/ argentina played amaaazing!

Or that England beat a more experienced Argentina side six months ago.

 

[Harold Hill]

Fair play. And I know proper England football fans will agree, and to be in a pub with such fans (hasn't often happened) inspires me to support the team from the land of my birth.

If fine lines like that make the difference then don't bother.

 

[squeegee]

If fine lines like that make the difference then don't bother.

Fine lines like that DO make a difference and I will bother and will continue to wrestle with this ambiguous notion of national identity whether you approve or not thank you

 

[Harold Hill]

Fine lines like that DO make a difference and I will bother and will continue to wrestle with this ambiguous notion of national identity whether you approve or not thank you

lol. You sound ridiculous pal.

It's not something political, the passion is either there or it isn't.

 

[JTG]

lol. You sound ridiculous pal.

It's not something political, the passion is either there or it isn't.

true. I don't support football teams because I weigh up their pros and cons, take into account any political factors and come up with a certain plus or minus rating for the team/city/country as a whole. It's a case of who or what tugs your heartstrings.

Fair enough if you're English and they don't float your boat - but I can't believe anyone would have to decide from day to day whether they like them or not

 

[jammer]

Or that England beat a more experienced Argentina side six months ago.

yes when argentina made (6) changes at half time..
small point

 

[JTG]

yes when argentina made (6) changes at half time..
small point

look who's been googling away to find something to nitpick at

 

[squeegee]

lol. You sound ridiculous pal.

It's not something political, the passion is either there or it isn't.

Only ridiculous to someone who's not the son of an immigrant. Truth is the passion has always been there for Italy, and I always felt glad when England got knocked out in the past.

But with each tournament I have moved a little closer to the land of my birth. With each tournament I say this is the one where I will support England and then the little-Englanders make up my mind for me.

I'm sure many Anglo-Pakistanis/Indians/Sri Lankans/Caribbeans understand this dilemma with regards to cricket. It's a pity but not surprising you can't understand that.

I see myself as a Londoner rather than an Englishman. I have no interest in the Royal Family, the St George's Flag, Winston Churchill or jingoistic notions of superiority.

I will continue to watch England and wish them well. But I'll be out tonight also supporting Italy.

All I'm saying is it's alot more confusing than when I was 15 in 1982 and believed even in the first round when Italy played badly, that they would win it. There was no doubt then who was my team and we partied long and hard that night in London town us Anglo-Italians.

Now things are just a little bit different as I'm older and don't even believe in notions of national identity any more. And I pity those who do, particularly flag-waving morons of any country.

In the words of Bill Hicks "It's a round world the last time I looked"

 

[squeegee]

true. I don't support football teams because I weigh up their pros and cons, take into account any political factors and come up with a certain plus or minus rating for the team/city/country as a whole. It's a case of who or what tugs your heartstrings.

Fair enough if you're English and they don't float your boat - but I can't believe anyone would have to decide from day to day whether they like them or not

Well believe it because there are hundreds of thousands of second generation immigrants who feel the same way. And your ignorance of this betrays your attitude to multi-culturalism and plurality.

And for both of you to suggest that supporting a country in a sporting event isn't political is plain daft. FFS wars have been started over a game of football.

Nationalism and jingoism whether in football or sport or life in general is always political. And if you don't ever think of these things you're ripe for manipulation. It's how governments have always got the people to get behind a flag and fight their wars in the past.

Thankfully more people are aware of this and do think about these things.