Are you sure you want to keep saying we were fooled by Ahmad Chalabi and the INC?

[pbman]

he's counting midterms, which are in november.

Correct.

The entire house is elected every two years.

 

[Idaho]

CAuse you guys always chear for them.

I've been here throu two us elections.

I know.

You mistake the contempt for Bush and his crowd of crooks for support for the other corporate stooges. For us intelligent outsiders it is like two kinds of mould growing in a petri dish in another room.

 

[Barking_Mad]

CAuse you guys always chear for them.

I've been here throu two us elections.

I know.

You are so consistently stupid it never ceases to amaze me. Do you ever actually READ what people say or do you just read what you'd like it to say?

 

[Barking_Mad]

Its the us anti-war position.

Not exclusivly democrate.

Anyways they are really shooting themselves in the foot with this one.

People who claim they were tricked by idiots, don't really look that smart.

*bangs head on table*

Jesus the Democrats are not anti-war they are pro-anything they can get cheap votes from. And if they were for the sake of argument to get into power tomorrow they would not withdraw US troops.

Secondly, Im not the one who was tricked, that was you.

 

[Fong]

Hitchens nailed this one.

If the democrats are fooled that easily as they are currently trying to assert,it makes them look mighty stupid and foolish.



Believe It or Not
Are you sure you want to keep saying we were fooled by Ahmad Chalabi and the INC?
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, Nov. 14, 2005, at 11:46 AM ET

............It was, of course, the sinuous and dastardly forces of Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress who persuaded the entire Senate to take leave of its senses in 1998. I know at least one of its two or three staffers, who actually admits to having engaged in the plan. By the same alchemy and hypnotism, the INC was able to manipulate the combined intelligence services of Britain, France, Germany, and Italy, as well as the CIA, the DIA, and the NSA, who between them employ perhaps 1.4 million people, and who in the American case dispose of an intelligence budget of $44 billion, with only a handful of Iraqi defectors and an operating budget of $320,000 per month. That's what you have to believe.

A few little strokes of Occam's razor are enough to dispose of this whole accumulation of fantasy. Suppose that every single Iraqi defector or informant, funneled out of a closed and terrified society by the INC, had been a dedicated and conscious fabricator. How could they persuade a vast organization, equipped with satellite surveillance that can almost read a license plate from orbit, of a plain untruth? (Leave to one side the useful intelligence that was provided by the INC and that has been acknowledged.) Well, what was the likelihood that ambiguous moves made by Saddam's agents were also innocuous moves? After decades in which the Baathists had been caught cheating and concealing, what room was there for the presumption of innocence? Hans Blix, the see-no-evil expert who had managed to certify Iraq and North Korea as kosher in his time, has said in print that he fully expected a coalition intervention to uncover hidden weaponry.

And this, of course, it actually has done. We did not know and could not know, until after the invasion, of Saddam's plan to buy long-range missiles off the shelf from Pyongyang, or of the centrifuge components buried on the property of his chief scientist, Dr. Mahdi Obeidi. The Duelfer report disclosed large latent facilities that were only waiting for the collapse of sanctions to resume activity. Ah, but that's not what you said you were looking for. … Could pedantry be pushed any further?...............

http://www.slate.com/id/2130293/

Ever heard the saying....

"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."

Yes Chalabi pulled the wool over our eyes with Kuwait, wasn't he directly responsible for putting a child in the Senate to testify that Iraqi soldiers were turning off Incubators and murdering babies, something that like the WMD proved to be a malicious lie.

The easy answer for Democrats and people like them is, when Chalabi fooled them the first time, little was known about him and his 'information' held some weight.

When he did it the second time, even the intelligence agencies marked his intelligence as untrustworthy.

As to the 'ambigious' nature of Baathist movements, so now all of a sudden the evidence for war is...well it must have been!

Please.

 

[nino_savatte]

I reckon DC is hoping that Chalabi will some day assume the reins of power. They've positioned him as an 'opposition politician'so it can only be a matter of time before we see him in charge - next election perhaps?

 

[ViolentPanda]

CAuse you guys always chear for them.

I've been here throu two us elections.

I know.

Liar.

You're not only a chickenhawk, you're a liar too.

You know that a lot of people here hate the dems as much as they hate your bunch of graverobbers, but you've decided to go for the big lie.

Wonder what your G-d thinks of you, with you being a hubristic lying coward?

 

[ViolentPanda]

You are so consistently stupid it never ceases to amaze me. Do you ever actually READ what people say or do you just read what you'd like it to say?

That hits the nail on the head.

I've been saying this for ages, he sees what he wishes to see, not what is on the page.