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Are you proud of Britain?

Are you proud of Britain?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • No!

    Votes: 4 66.7%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
Spymaster said:
So you feel qualified to judge the Spanish as racist based on one or two off the cuff, throwaway comments made to you by someone who carried your bags for you but you but you stiffed for a tip?

and then there was the guy who was miffed because i didnt buy some shitty "gold" (ha!) chain off him. he could have branded me a cheap bastard or tight git, but no, he chose to insult me with regards to my race.
Racist.
I found it odd also, how well the Germans were treated, and me, a customer who paid the same, got treat like bull crap.
 
Major Tom said:
Its justified IMO. Some bits of Spain have been thoroughly trashed by British tourists.

I'm part Spanish by way - however I have never lived there.

In what way trashed - do you mean there are 'English restaurants, pubs and shops' on Spanish soil? Whole towns colonised by these pale-faced barbarians? Swathes of once-pure Gotic land now soiled by Saxon hordes?
 
Major Tom said:
Its justified IMO. Some bits of Spain have been thoroughly trashed by British tourists.

I'm part Spanish by way - however I have never lived there.


i wouldnt say trashed, the spanish have allowed this to happen in the pursuit of a profit. Tourism is Spains biggest income.
 
Onslow said:
I stayed in a hotel were the majority of people were German, except the staff who were all spanish. I was treated like shit basically, for reasons unknown to me, and so were the rest of the people i went with, one of the porters called me an English bastard for not tipping him! When i reported it to the manager he just kind of shrugged and said the guy i described doesnt work there!
I was also called an English bastard again! ( not actually making this up) i went to look round a market and found myself engaged in what i thought was a friendly bartering war with a stall owner, when i walked away due to the price being too high, he shouted to me "you English Bastard".

true these are only two isolated incidents, but the overall vibe i got was that i wasnt really welcome, due to me being english. I think they based this on the sterotype of english lager lout abroad, which doesnt apply to everyone.

I was in Barcelona recently and we got treated very well. The only crap we had was getting ripped off in a couple of tourist joints. The local bars and tapas places etc were very friendly.
 
Onslow said:
[ID card] wont even effect your life in any way, shape or form, just an extra piece of plastic to add to all the rest.
So why bother introducing it if it won't have an effect?
 
Spymaster said:
Bingo. That's not racism. It's specifically anti-English sentiment based on the shitty way that they themselves have been treated by certain people.

So what you are saying is that you have never experienced racism in Spain.

Glad we got that sorted.
This is ... complete pish. If I had a black boss who treated me like shit, and I got hacked off, turned around and called her a "miserable nigger", obviously it would be a racist statement! Whether she had aggravated me or not would have sod all to do with it. (Of course, if I called her a "miserable sourpuss", that would be perfectly acceptable).
 
Britain. Dear Britain. How I cherish this sceptered isle, this green and tree-filled kidney-shaped blob, quite near France. Your very hills seem carved from spotted dick, the rivers that run through you, Birds Custard...

Sorry. er. Yeah.


I realised I was gay when was 14. But I didn't come out for three years, so that's quite a lot of time to hold a secret. In that time I came to accept that I was different, and quite a lot of people would eventually hate me for what I was.

I wrang my heart out over it, but eventually decided that, fuck it, if I was going to be castigated as "other" then I would do it with style and panache. I would maintain my dignity. In fact, I could be as weird as I wanted, and it didn't matter. I could wear sarongs and make-up, combat gear and gasmasks, dram it up and make a scene. It was expected of me. My nature gave me license to be odd, and this has given me some of the greatest pleasures life could hold.

I feel the same way about where I'm from. Being British makes me stand out. I've been all over America, to South America, the Far East, Europe, and everywhere people know you before you get there. They have a preconception (much like we do of them) and that preconception is often one of unique, anarchistic, archaic, island dwelling monkeys. And it's one I like to play up to. I can't change the fact that I'm British, so I might as well be an advocate. I always seem to end up telling foreigners where to eat and where to go clubbing...And just like my sexuality, I think, yeah, I'll play the game...I'll put the face on you expect to see....and I'll say the lines.

Being British only really occurs to me when I'm talking to someone who isn't. And then see yourself through their eyes, and you'll see what British means.

Outside all this identity politics, there is a life going on, with people, and problems, and hugs to be had.
 
Don'y be so stupid. I call the Chinese Take-away the Chinky, and I'm demeaning no-one by doing so. Even a Paki shop has a cultural place in my history. Should I just forget them? That's what we called them when we were kids.

I went to Thailand and they called me a Big Ghost to my face. Go figure...
 
Wookey said:
Don'y be so stupid. I call the Chinese Take-away the Chinky, and I'm demeaning no-one by doing so. Even a Paki shop has a cultural place in my history. Should I just forget them? That's what we called them when we were kids.

I went to Thailand and they called me a Big Ghost to my face. Go figure...


Some southern americans were brought up to call blacks niggers, without a trace of guilt or self-consciousness. Doesn't make it right.
 
Dandred said:
I get called white boy when I'm in Jamaica, it don't bother me :D


Next time you go to a chinese restaurant, call the owner a chink, and see if he smiles.

If you hesitate in doing so, it means that you're fully aware that it is a racist thing to say.
 
arabonradar said:
That comes across as a little lame IMHO, being it's an excuse based on a stereotype. :p


yeah i see your point, and perhaps 'fear' is the wrong word.

i'll try harder next time! ;)
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Next time you go to a chinese restaurant, call the owner a chink, and see if he smiles.

If you hesitate in doing so, it means that you're fully aware that it is a racist thing to say.

I would never call a Chineese man a chink Johhny I was just saying that it doesn't bother me to be called white boy. Do try and stop making cheep shots at me, every time you get poorer and poorer at it, I though you had got to your lowest when you tried to have a go about my age on another thread but it apears not :)
 
zit said:
dont be so hard on yourself.

Party time in switzerland

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nice one johnny.... :rolleyes:


ive been thinking about this some more and thought how would i feel in the presence of a chinese person saying, for example, "shall we go for a chinky?", and realised that i would feel a little awkward... but also, i'd feel equally strange saying to an indian guy "shall we go for an indian" and clearly indian is not a racist word...

i dunno, i hadnt really analysed the use of the word Chinky when referring to a choice of cuisine, until this thread... i didnt mean to be in any way racist though... please excuse my poor choice of phrase... :o

suppose that's one of the reasons i like it here at urban... you learn stuff, innit! :p
 
Whatever happened to going down the Chinese or the Indian?! Chinky? Paki shop?!? I'm shocked, and I'm down the road from Romford! :eek:

If I could digress to the thread topic. ;)

I can't really speak for Britain cos I don't reckon it has any cultral identity. Never spoken to a Scot, Englishman, Welshman or Ulsterman who refers to themselves as British. Despite the best efforts of Westminster, it's nothing but a geographical label for the cluster of rocks off France.

England. Arthur. Albion. Crown, cricket, Christmas pud. Monty Python. Newcastle Brown. The Lake District. Love all that stuff. But chip any deeper, and we're completely lost. We're a nation which gets nostalgic for a global bloody war, which hasn't found anything better to do with itself since it lost the right to rule over millions of forelock tugging wogs. That's fucked up. We've jettisoned our best characterists along with our worst. We've become subservient. We've flogged all our rights and become Westminster's whipping boys. We let authoritarians walk all over us then put the blame on the weakest in society. Any decent nation would have chucked Thatcher out after one term. Blunkett wouldn't last five fucking minutes. But we don't care, worse, we don't even notice. Like I said, completely lost.

And we gave the world the festering steaming wank-stain The Sun. That's just evil!
 
Britain Bashing

Bashing Britain seems to be all the rage at the moment but I think its more down to our hectic lifestyles and frustration with government policy and the general despair at the way we interpret our country is being run. I don't think its economic although the wealth could be spread more evenly.

Sometimes legging it abroad is not the answer. The grass always seems greener on the other side until you actually get there.

Anyone seen the Ugly Britain site?

http://www.uglybritain.co.uk


Judging by the overwhelming response I would say more are happy with the UK than unhappy with it. What really pisses me of is dog shit on pavements and mindless vandalism which makes our country look really bad and degenerate.
 
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