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Are you going to f-ck Virgin?

you mean you want to be spoon fed? tsk_tsk :D

Virgin "tailoring" access to preferred sites. Internet Users being targeted and trained to view what the ISP & Partners wishes teh Users to view..

Non_UK Netizens attempt to seek & offer support thru boycott. :cool:
 
They argue that declining TV audiences and increasing internet usage is seeing the big media giants moving their influence on to the internet and narrowing down choice.
 
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so, was 9/11 an inside job ?
 
Well, it's only a matter of time before we all lose the freedom of the internet. Especially if people start yawning and ignoring the early warning signs.

They make an important point about the internet giving people the most freedom of information we have ever had, and I think it's only a matter of time before they try and take it away, like they have already done in places like China. And now big corporations are trying to control this too for the sake of money.
 
Listened to the OP link now. Still not clear what sites have Virgin Media blocked or made difficult to load. Who are their partner sites?
 
So, to save me actually watching the rather earnest video .. is this about ISPs cowtowing to dodgy regimes, web searches being skewed for commercial motives, ISPs feeding personal information to the government, or ISPs blocking peer to peer copyright theft ?
 
Its about "web searches being skewed for commercial motives" but also making partner sites easy to load and non-partner sites difficult to load or even blocking access to them.

Apparently Virgin Media has already starting doing this. :eek:
 
You don't need to watch the video, there's nothing to see, just listen to it while doing something else :p
 
gentlegreen said:
to save me actually watching the rather earnest video ..
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read it then...

movielol.org said:
Virgin has been trying to calm the internet revolt against them for saying they would limit users' internet access for commercial ends, stating "We're not suggesting there will be any denial of access to those who don't want to pay." and then going on to confirm their previous anti-net neutrality statement: "VM could offer content providers deals to upgrade their provisioning if they want to ensure best access to to broadband subscribers.". They did not comment on their earlier statements about putting non-premium content providers on their slower "bus lanes".

A BT spokesperson gave us the following statement:
"... Unlike Virgin, we think the bandwidth we provide our users should be equal for all services and if services like the BBC iPlayer put too much strain on the bandwidth, both ISP's and content providers should educate the users on that issue so that users know when and why they may have to upgrade their account for more bandwidth if it exceeds 'fair use' terms. We always bear the consumer in mind first and have no plans to prioritize traffic from third party companies. We welcome all the Virgin customers who left because of the net neutrality issue and offer 'neutral' bandwidth."

Update: Sky has now also responded to us with a somewhat vague statement: “As video usage grows, it's natural that there will be a debate about the best way to invest in additional capacity. We want to be one of the UK's biggest and best ISPs so we'll always be guided by the desire to meet customers' needs for a high-quality internet experience."
Keep Virgin from destroying the internet...

The new CEO of Virgin Media, Neil Berkett, has openly stated in an interview that they think net neutrality is “a load of bollocks” and claimed they're already doing deals to deliver some people’s content faster than others. They would then put websites and services that don't pay Virgin in the "slow lane", meaning those sites would load slowly and cause most users to give up using them, feeling forced to use whatever Virgin wants to push through their network.

This is not the first time an internet provider infringes upon net neutrality, but it is the first time that an ISP so brutally states that they simply plan to limit internet access to a television-like system in which the access provider completely regulates the content you have access to.

Virgin Media has over 3.5 million customers in the UK and the real danger is that when they start applying this system to their network, all major internet providers around the globe will soon follow the trend. Because this is exactly what major ISP's have been wanting to do for years.

But we can stop it.

If the masses of the internet react against this, we will set an example of what happens when one provider tries to take away our freedom. We will make it very clear that any ISP who tries to infringe upon net neutrality will see its popularity go down the drain because the users don't accept it. And we'll see to it that only the providers who care about safeguarding our internet freedom have our support.
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As you prolly know Virgin is as good as independent from BT, engineering wise... I wundered why that was...now some things are being revealed.

"You affect the world by what you browse."~Tim Berners-Lee
 
just on a parralel note, does anyone know how ethically sound Tiscali are? Trying to find out more about them, but not getting very far...
 
well!..."mine" jus has...the knock on no-less....:hmm:.

Recent heavy usage by a small percentage of customers (approx 3%) is affecting the overall performance you experience. To protect you from this, we are extending the time during which our Fair Usage Policy applies. From Friday 1st August, the policy will apply between 9am and 11pm daily.
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I know you prolly won't see the connection..yet...but it is related...this month my Fair Usage Policy was betwixt 6pm & 12pm... next month it's 9am & 11pm...oh joys....scheduling since '97...but the window(sic) jus gets short n shorter. :rolleyes:


e2a::: oh and how many time have I found this somewhere when an ISP gets all flupperty & grinchy...

KCOM Group. Registered address: 37 Carr Lane Hull HU1 3RE United Kingdom
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...I guess longodg is prolly the only one who would/maybies see that as ironic...since I've never ever ever lived or used the net in Hull.:D
 
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