Are You "Anyone But England"?

Discussion in 'World Cup 2018' started by Spymaster, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    It's beyond weird. It reached and breached the bounds of self-hatred many pages ago.
     
  2. The Boy

    The Boy danny la rouge is probably wrong.

    Neither. Not that it matters, but this thread or so far removed from reality anyhoo.
     
  3. keybored

    keybored #NeverUseTheInternetAgain

    Team Sky represent GBR.
     
  4. The Boy

    The Boy danny la rouge is probably wrong.

    No they don't. They're registered in the UK but that is rather different.
     
  5. keybored

    keybored #NeverUseTheInternetAgain

    Good enough for me.
     
  6. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    So they don't even want to be associated with Wales?
     
  7. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    Well there isn't a "Great Britain" team in the tdf. Perhaps your confusing it with the Olympics or something. Of course Team Sky is British based but it has riders from multiple nationalities. If one of their Columbian riders won the headline wouldn't be "Britains Egan Bernal wins the Tour de France", so no it doesn't really explain the headline tbh.
     
  8. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    lol ;) you've simply made up a false narrative and have run with it. None of what you've said there is true. Nice try though.
     
  9. keybored

    keybored #NeverUseTheInternetAgain

    Yes, Paolo. We already established this.
     
  10. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    I see you're still at stage one, denial. Only four more stages to go.
     
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  11. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    Yeah, ok, well not sure a quote was needed for that revelation but whatever. imo being ABE isn't any more weird than the collective nationalistic flag worship whenever there's some kind of major sporting event. Good to see that the neighbours opposite have finally taken down their numpty flag, it was a bit of an eyesore and I'm glad to see the back of it.
     
  12. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    This is how somebody tried to explain ABEs to the readers of USA Today.
    World Cup 2018: 'Brits' don't all support England
     
  13. isvicthere?

    isvicthere? a.k.a. floppybollocks

    So how is the "collective nationalistic flag worship" of England different to, well... every other nation in the world? You could be original and be ABN (Anyone But Netherlands) or ABBF (Anyone But Burkina Faso).
     
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  14. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    There isn't necessarily a difference. I don't know for sure because I don't live in any of those "other nations". Not sure why I need to try and "be original", I'm reasonably happy with my ABE status at the moment, it's just a personal preference and a bit of fun. I have noticed that it does seem to irritate some of the Lundoners, I'm not sure why.

    Anyway, yesterday there was good news on the ABE front with India's comprehensive test match win at Trent Bridge (20 minutes from where I live), this after a fairly lean post world cup spell with England thrashing the Indians in the ODI's and the first two tests. As usual in these sorts of matches, there were sections of the crowd who were clearly supporting India, but were born in the UK. Norman Tebbit would not approve. ;)
     
  15. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    How do you know they were born in the UK, did you ask them?
     
  16. killer b

    killer b Minimum Waste / Maximum Joy

    diaspora support for home country teams isn't anything like 'anyone but England' anyway.
     
  17. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    Diaspora support for home country teams is a subset of ABE, along with diaspora support for other "commonwealth" countries, notably India, Pakistan (zindabad) and the West Indian countries +Guyana. They are all welcome under the ABE umbrella. For example when England are playing India at cricket in England, there is always a sizeable number of British Asians supporting India and not England. ABE's that have any interest in cricket will also be support India and not England, so to say that it "isn't anything like" ABE is inaccurate, they have at least that one thing in common, not supporting England.
     
  18. killer b

    killer b Minimum Waste / Maximum Joy

    You think too much about this
     
  19. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    Really? I disagree, if I had the time I'd think about it a bit more. It's a subject that I find interesting. If you're not particularly interested in the subject then you're not obliged to participate in the discussion, there are other topics available. Perhaps some of the Lundoners could do with thinking about this a bit more instead of getting annoyed at ABE's it might help to understand the ABE perspective a bit more.

    For many South Asians, support for home teams has its roots in family tradition, but is now expressed as part of a cosmopolitan diasporic identity. And amongst a significant number interviewed for this study, cricket helps fuel an unforgiving attitude to the English. A perception of the ongoing social exclusion of migrant communities in Britain stimulates their attachments to 'homeland' teams. A strong feeling that they would 'never really belong', as one taxi driver who had been in Britain since the 1960's put it, gave support for the Pakistan or Indian teams an added salience, even when ideas of 'home' were highly ambivalent.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cricket-Migration-Diasporic-Communities-Society/dp/1138892734
     
  20. mojo pixy

    mojo pixy unquantifiable hazards

    Doubling down. It's the new self-awareness.
     
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  21. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    lol @ Dreyfuss dick chiming in yet again with his /ˈblɛf(ə)rəʊˌspaz(ə)mz/

    Prompted by the killers claim that ABE and diaspora home country support had nothing to do with each other, as I was down in London for the carnival I asked my dad why he was ABE, given that I inherited his ABE genes. I kinda knew what his answer would be, and he looked at me with a "it should be obvious, why are you even asking that question?" look.

    The after effects of this countries imperial and colonial past and how badly the immigrants were treated after they were invited here, where the "streets were paved with gold". Which all ties in nicely with how the Notting Hill Carnival got started in the first place, the Windrush generation, police brutality, Grenfell etc. A common refrain to that is "yeah but all that happened years ago, why can't you lot just forgive and forget? ..move on" etc, which is easy for those that aren't affected to say.

    So whenever the past "masters" get a bit of a sporting bloody nose, there is joy amongst the ABEL bodied folk, which annoys the Lundoners.

    Oh yeah, and another thing. Three LIONS? Excuse me? Lions? That well known animal native to these shores. The British Lions. Hows that for blatant appropriation. Change the song to "three stoats on my shirt", and the touring rugby team to the British Badgers. (stewwwwwps)

    Although I'm not optimistic, I hope the Indians will carry their form from the last test and bring more cheer to us ABE folk starting tomorrow.
     
  22. sealion

    sealion Well-Known Member

    what's a Lundoner?
     
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  23. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    You're talking shit (quelle surprise). I'm Irish but I don't hold England's sporting teams accountable for past transgressions of the English government.
    You're just a bitter little man.
     
  24. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse A-wob a-bob bob

    They are people who come from a very specific bit of Liverpool...

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    Though why Mr Sanchez takes pleasure in their annoyance is anyone's guess.
     
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  25. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Whats going on with the FIFA World Rankings then? The last update was in June. Before the World Cup, and still has Germany up top. Don't they need to sort this out?

    Fifa rankings
     
  26. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    lol, wow, check out that sample size of a single Plastic Padraig in support of the tree lions. Not a single ABE has said that Gareth Southgate or Raheem Sterling are personally "accountable for past transgressions", that's just another strawman that you've pulled out of your arse.

    Now who's talking utter gobshite (pot meet kettle). Yeah, sure, I'm as bitter as Larry, or as Mr Partridge might sing..."I'm stupidly bitter"...and all this despite the spectacular ABE world cup win. Woe is me. :( ( ;) )
     
  27. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut ... the Great.

    Why do you keep posting on this thread, and making yourself come across as an even bigger dickhead? :confused:
     
  28. souljacker

    souljacker innit

    It's odd that you care so much about the cricket. Most cricket fans who support England don't mind if India win as long as the game is played well. It's nothing like the football supporters at all.
     
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  29. sealion

    sealion Well-Known Member

    You're a sad cunt.
     
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  30. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut ... the Great.

    You put it across, so much better than me. :thumbs:
     
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