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Are you a magician or Jerry Sadowitz fan?

Apparently though, the fact that he gets his dick out is on the marketing for the show so if anyone goes they know what to expect. I can't say I'd wanna go along to such a show myself. And if he is gratuitously racist thats really not good and not something I approve of. I think context can be important though and there are problems with being too censorious - but wether thats happening here I don't know for sure.
 
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I saw him it must be 20 years ago. He was by turns brilliantly funny and horrendously offensive. About disability I seem to remember.

I wouldn't choose to see him again.
 
My mate went to see the warm up /try out show for this. Said it was about twenty people and Sadowitz. He got called a paedo but didn't mention any flashing or racism. I'll ask him.
 
kabbes said:
Being “famously offensive” is not a free rein to say absolutely anything with no consequences.
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One consequence was that the pool of people wanting to go see him was fairly limited.

Plus making himself very unpopular with the BBC with some quite outrageous allegations relating to Sir Jimmy Savile
 
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Aye, saw a lot of tweets from comedians who didn’t know or seem to care to know just what he’d said or done. I thought, hang on, let’s find out more before blindly supporting his right to express himself. Still don’t know much more but if he’s exposing himself to audience members and they’ve complained that this made them feel unsafe while it was happening, I’m not sure if I do want to support that right in this case
 
8ball said:
One consequence was that the pool of people wanting to go see him was fairly limited.
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And another is that a commercial enterprise decided they didn’t want to partner with him any more.

It’s not exactly a stabbing in the neck, whatever Tim might think of it.
 
kabbes said:
And another is that a commercial enterprise decided they didn’t want to partner with him any more.

It’s not exactly a stabbing in the neck, whatever Tim might think of it.
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Well, no, there’s a huge difference, but there’s also a huge difference in the scale of the crime.

Rushdie was allowed to offend many, many millions of people (people who had not bought a ticket to endure such treatment), over the course of decades. He was actually protected by the State at great cost so he could continue propagating his message of hate.

You can say what you like, obviously we need and believe in freedom of expression, but not without any consequences, especially if you are making people feel unsafe.
 
8ball said:
Plus making himself very unpopular with the BBC with some quite outrageous allegations relating to Sir Jimmy Savile
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Not really. I believe he had some comments about Savile in his routine many years ago, but I doubt this resulted in an emergency summit at Broadcasting House.
 
kabbes said:
What are you saying here? What equivalence exactly are you drawing between a theatre deciding that they don’t want somebody on their stage and a stabbing?
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Merely, that they're both the consequences of provoking and upsetting others. I don't suppose anyone will try and kill Sadowitz, although he has been violently attacked because of his act. Rushdie has also been the victim of more petty bannings.

Personally, I've said things on social media, that were someone malicious to join the dots, could put my job at risk, but I'm not willing to hide my opinions.
 
Raheem said:
Not really. I believe he had some comments about Savile in his routine many years ago, but I doubt this resulted in an emergency summit at Broadcasting House.
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I think I mixed his 1988 comments up with Johnny Rotten’s comments from a decade earlier, sorry. :o
 
8ball said:
Well, no, there’s a huge difference, but there’s also a huge difference in the scale of the crime.

Rushdie was allowed to offend many, many millions of people (people who had not bought a ticket to endure such treatment), over the course of decades. He was actually protected by the State at great cost so he could continue propagating his message of hate.

You can say what you like, obviously we need and believe in freedom of expression, but not without any consequences, especially if you are making people feel unsafe.
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Message of hate? Have you thought this through eight ball or are you just being pedantic.
 
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