Are there no meat-eating anarchists?

Discussion in 'theory, philosophy & history' started by Toast Rider, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. Toast Rider

    Toast Rider Banned Banned

    Being vegan seems to be almost essential to an anarchist outlook or lifestyle? Or indeed any kind of radical anticapitalist approach.

    What about even getting rid of capitalist industrial agriculture and raising animals in their natural environment (which is healthy for the land)?

    I eat meat (to be clear, though i imagine that's fairly obvious at this point)
     
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yes there are meat-eating anarchists, i've even met one or two.
     
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  3. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    ...because?
     
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  4. andysays

    andysays Defiantly non-premium member

    Real anarchists eat babies
     
  5. joustmaster

    joustmaster offcumdun

    But are the babies vegan?
     
  6. Wilf

    Wilf Meeting few of his KPIs

    Rather depends what you mean by anarchist. If you mean vaguely green/lifestylist types, I'm not even sure a majority are vegan, even if the bulk are vegetarian. If you mean libcom/class struggle anarchists, vegans definitely a minority.
     
  7. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    Lots of anarchists are meat eaters.

    I don't agree with all that Bookchin writes here, but I do agree with his general evaluation of lifestyle anarchism: 8. Evaluating Lifestyle Anarchism
     
  8. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Janet biehl says in her biography of him that the thing that caused most friction between them was his daily habit of driving about a mile to MacDonald's to get his lunch.
     
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    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

  10. Wilf

    Wilf Meeting few of his KPIs

    Town Meeting - sponsored by MacDonalds.
     
  11. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    I give the meat to my dog on a string.
     
  12. littleseb

    littleseb littleseb

    By chapter 2 of 'Whom The Bell Tolls' it is pretty clear that Robert Jordan and Co don't seem to care too much for a vegan diet:

    'They were all eating out of the platter, not speaking, as is the Spanish custom. It was rabbit cooked with onions and green peppers and there were chick peas in the red wine sauce. It was well cooked, the rabbit meat flaked off the bones, and the sauce was delicious. Robert Jordan drank another cup of wine while he ate. The girl watched him all through the meal. Every one else was watching his food and eating. Robert Jordan wiped up the last of the sauce in front of him with a piece of bread, piled the rabbit bones to one side, wiped the spot where they had been for sauce, then wiped his fork clean with the bread, wiped his knife and put it away and ate the bread.'
     
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  13. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    That's Jordan the Yankee stalinist and his stalinist mates. One of the groups killling anarchists.

    There actually was a quite a large number of VGs or veggies among the spanish anarchists. There was a def puritan current among the more ideologically committed.
     
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  14. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Maybe a lack of meat is what causes people's decline in mental faculties to the extent that the believe in a system that could never work.
     
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  15. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls


     
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  16. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Don't see any relevance. Unless you are accusing me of supporting theocracy? Which is the polar opposite of standpoint.
     
  17. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Game over.
     
  18. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    Proper anarachists only seeds and shoots
     
  19. dessiato

    dessiato Looking for my shopping trolley

    A fantastic book. I must read it again.
     
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  20. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    If you're raising them it's not their natural environment. I do love a pointless Internet gotcha.
     
  21. Toast Rider

    Toast Rider Banned Banned

    It doesn't have to be anarchist specifically, but anyone that wants to live in a society free from unjustified power and authority, like capitalism. My experience with people whose views so align is that they are invariably vegan, and vice versa
     
  22. Toast Rider

    Toast Rider Banned Banned

    the meat or the dog?
     
  23. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Not been my experience (i.e. not invariably) and will be even less prevalent internationally I'd reckon.
     
  24. Toast Rider

    Toast Rider Banned Banned

    because what?
     
  25. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yeh that's what i'm asking. what are your grounds for saying that being vegan seems essential to any kind of radical anticapitalist approach. and approach to what?
     
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  26. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist specter haunting

    this is bollocks. Plenty of people who want rid of capitalism are meat eaters, straight veggie, lactose intolerant, half rice half chips, no sugar after sundown etc
     
  27. Dragnet

    Dragnet Well-Known Member

    It's not essential; I'd perhaps say there's a greater proportion of vegetarians/vegans among anarchists than among 'non-anarchists', for whatever reason, but, in my experience at least, they're not the majority.
     
  28. seventh bullet

    seventh bullet red mullet

    I want rid of capitalism and ate a sausage roll last night.
     
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  29. Toast Rider

    Toast Rider Banned Banned

    how do you live with yourself?
     
  30. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    I suppose the baby-eating anarchists would count.
     

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