Are the Welsh a separate "race"?

[Streathamite]

If you regard the anglo-saxons as a race, and the Seppoes as a race by now, and the Franks, then yes.
Some I know see all these groups as nations, and part of the caucasian race.
As one who says 'long live racial interbreeding' and 'up the mongrels' (mongrels like me), I'd say it's dangerous to get obsessed by all these issues of racial status/purity.

 

[ernestolynch]

"Racially purer" eh, Ern?

Does this mean that someone from Rhyl is more "genetically pure" than someone from Pontyprydd?.

Duw duw duw.

The only pure thing Rhylians concern themselves with is their bags of smack!

 

[Funky_monks]

If you regard the anglo-saxons as a race, and the Seppoes as a race by now, and the Franks, then yes.
Some I know see all these groups as nations, and part of the caucasian race.
As one who says 'long live racial interbreeding' and 'up the mongrels' (mongrels like me), I'd say it's dangerous to get obsessed by all these issues of racial status/purity.

Yes, but there are many French people who aren't 'Frankish' and many Americans who aren't Native Americans. And yes, I do find all this talk of race in this context mildly disturbing. Oh, and I'm very much a mongrel too (albeit one who's ancestors where all caucasian).

 

[Pingu]

Does this mean that someone from Rhyl is more "genetically pure" than someone from Pontyprydd?

oh come on now... fairs fair.. probably a scouser if living in rhyl at this time of year anyhow.

seeing as I am originally from Bae Cemaes I now feel quite smug.. in a welsh sort of way.

so whos up for a rumble then? we will drive our sheep south and you drive yours north and we can have a "battle of the flocks" in say... welshpool?

 

[Funky_monks]

Duw duw duw.

The only pure thing Rhylians concern themselves with is their bags of smack!

oh come on now... fairs fair.. probably a scouser if living in rhyl at this time of year anyhow.

I have a Rhylian mate who would probably resent being called a smackhead and a Scouser. I imagine he might decide to punch you in the face and nick your wallet upon being called either (note: this is not a serious comment).

Eh! Eh! Calm down!

 

[WasGeri]

I voted yes.

So are the Cornish.

 

[tom796]

In the midlands - Powys - you will find a hybrid of Cymry and some Mercian stock, from when Welsh raiders would kidnap the less-ugly women of Saxon race and take them back to breed.

aaacchhhummm! the mercians were not saxons, ern, but angles. really old chap, if you're going to play the game...

 

[ernestolynch]

Angles, Saxons, all fucking big-nosed Krauts to me, boyo. Hairy-arse women and weak-chinned men!

 

[Funky_monks]

Just to labout my original point pedantically and somewhat annoyingly. Both of these sporting personalities are Welsh. Are they of the same race?

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[ernestolynch]

You're an English anyway aren't you fyncimyncs? Whassit to yee?

 

[Pickman's model]

didn't tom jones sing something about the grass of home?

a song i'm sure TeeJay would appreciate.

 

[Dr. Christmas]

*bangs head off perspex screen*

TJ= Trolling Jizzstain....

 

[ernestolynch]

For someone who denies the existence of 'races' he's pretty much a full-blown rascist like his 'idiot' mate...

 

[Pickman's model]

he has mates?

 

[Dr. Christmas]

...ahh yes, the true blue middle england tory with the name of an american state....

 

[Pickman's model]

someone who used to own a gardening tool?

 

[ernestolynch]

I meant the eponymous idiot, the uncalm one...of the jasperite variety.

 

[Dr. Christmas]

This thread's getting like Radio Free Europe before D-Day...

[Nasal RP voice]'The Trolling Jizzstain will use a gardening tool to plough a Jasperite furrow in Middle England'[/Nasal RP voice]

 

[Pickman's model]

i'd a hoe?

 

[Funky_monks]

You're an English anyway aren't you fyncimyncs? Whassit to yee?

Well, Ern, I am and English in that I was born in England. It all depends however on how you want to define race. If you go back to my grandparents and great-grandparents generations then I'm a mongrel made up of Irish, Welsh, German and English roots. Hence my point. Although I do concede it’s a point made on an idiotic thread almost certainly intended to troll. And possibly therefore the thread may need more talk of pitched battles between various herds of sheep to take place in Welshpool than serious debate as to whether nationality constitutes race.

 

[Dr. Christmas]

The right implement there, pm.

 

[ernestolynch]

Well, Ern, I am and English in that I was born in England. It all depends however on how you want to define race. If you go back to my grandparents and great-grandparents generations then I'm a mongrel made up of Irish, Welsh, German and English roots. Hence my point. Although I do concede it’s a point made on an idiotic thread almost certainly intended to troll. And possibly therefore the thread may need more talk of pitched battles between various herds of sheep to take place in Welshpool than serious debate as to whether nationality constitutes race.

Iawn boi, but them there Japs - are they a race? That there Teejay said I was a 'rascist' for talking about my Jap's Eye...so are they a race or a nation...is there a Welsh word for 'race' anyway? Cenedl means a nation.

 

[jms]

Yes they are
they have enhanced vision
When they see English people, to them it looks like our foreheads are glowing
thats how they know we're English

 

[oddjob]

I meant the eponymous idiot, the uncalm one...of the jasperite variety.

what the fuck does that mean

 

[Dr. Christmas]

Iawn boi, but them there Japs - are they a race? That there Teejay said I was a 'rascist' for talking about my Jap's Eye...so are they a race or a nation...is there a Welsh word for 'race' anyway? Cenedl means a nation.

hiliol= rascist

hiliaeth= rascism

 

[ernestolynch]

In its honour, I won't answer that question. (oddjob)

 

[ernestolynch]

hiliol= rascist

hiliaeth= rascism

When was that put into the language, Dr C? Interested to know.

 

[Funky_monks]

Iawn boi, but them there Japs - are they a race? That there Teejay said I was a 'rascist' for talking about my Jap's Eye...so are they a race or a nation...is there a Welsh word for 'race' anyway? Cenedl means a nation.

I dunno about wether or not the Japanese are a race, or a nation made up of various races? I'm not up on my history of the East. I'm not sure about a Welsh word for 'race' either as my Welsh aint that fantastic. What's the Welsh for the 'tribes' that you find round here (e.g. Cofis)? Would that roughly equate to 'race'? I wouldnt take that much notice of what TJ says, he's gone from simply being dull to a trolling dickhead (IMO).

 

[ernestolynch]

How comes you're so sure then that the Welsh aren't a race, but you're not about the Japs? What about the Basques then? Or the Hottentots?

 

[Dr. Christmas]

When was that put into the language, Dr C? Interested to know.

...dunno ern...it's been the word ever since I started taking an interest in the language in the late 90s. So, since at least 1997.