Are DVD's becoming obsolete?
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skyscraper101
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Many films silmpy won't come out in Blu Ray for so long that downloading will have taken over IMHO.
The big difference with this era and the VHS era is that Blu Ray players WILL still play DVDs and therefore you won't have to upgrade your collection to be able to keep on viewing it - unless you're really bothered about owning a super duper Hi Def version. And then you'll only be able to when the studio decides its feasible enough to produce some.
DVDs are now like what? £2.99 in the sales? Compared to at least £12.99 on Blu Ray in many cases. Is Hi Def REALLY that much of a pull yet?
The big difference with this era and the VHS era is that Blu Ray players WILL still play DVDs and therefore you won't have to upgrade your collection to be able to keep on viewing it - unless you're really bothered about owning a super duper Hi Def version. And then you'll only be able to when the studio decides its feasible enough to produce some.
DVDs are now like what? £2.99 in the sales? Compared to at least £12.99 on Blu Ray in many cases. Is Hi Def REALLY that much of a pull yet?
It only burns single layer Blu-Ray, therefore it's already obsolete.
That's sale items though. A newly released chart DVD and newly released chart Blu-Ray/HD-DVD aren't that differently priced.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Yeah, I reckon it is.
Ranbay
The same rules apply
Write Speed:
BD-R: Single Layer: 6x, Dual Layer: 4x
BD-RE: Single Layer: 2x, Dual Layer: 2x
Wow, just checked and they're about half that now. Dual layers are still way expensive though.
so tempted to order one... cant see any reason not to right now...
Is there a minimum spec needed, or can they be dropped in just about any PC (within reason) with a sata connector?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
I wish it would go.
Reno
The In Kraut
They said the same when DVD's came out. DVD's (and CD's) were expensive at the start, but once prices drop Blu-ray will become mainstream. If you have a big telly or (like me) a projector the difference in quality is far from marginal.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
1. Downloads...are still a huge amount of hassle for many people. Torrent, codecs and the rest of it...until someone iPods movie downloads, and when peeps really get wise to how shite 700mb AVIs look on a 42" LCD, buying a film on a disc and shoving it in a player will still be most people's default option.
2. Now that player prices are coming down (and PS3 sales are on the up) the Blu-Ray manufacturers will be looking at 3-7 repurhcasing cycles to get the market past 60% in home ownership, which is about when they and the retailers will start to scale back normal DVD player sales and manufacture; software will be different, but when people start to replace their DVD collections with HD scaled movies will be when the normal DVD will be in it's final days...
2. Now that player prices are coming down (and PS3 sales are on the up) the Blu-Ray manufacturers will be looking at 3-7 repurhcasing cycles to get the market past 60% in home ownership, which is about when they and the retailers will start to scale back normal DVD player sales and manufacture; software will be different, but when people start to replace their DVD collections with HD scaled movies will be when the normal DVD will be in it's final days...
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
If this recession kicks in, then all those 42" TVs and PS3s bought on credit might not seem so vital... and neither will expensive blu-ray discs 
In all seriousness, HD stuff is still a niche market, and will be for a while to come. Downloads off the web might not fly off the shelf, but downloads through things like Sky and BT Vision will.
In all seriousness, HD stuff is still a niche market, and will be for a while to come. Downloads off the web might not fly off the shelf, but downloads through things like Sky and BT Vision will.
Hollis
bloody furious
If you know anything about anything you soon realise John Humphries has no fucking clue.. His interview with Darling was abysmal..
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
This is why the format 'war' was so fucking stupid. It was an irrelevance because they will both still play DVD's and all anyone wants with these disc's is to be able to put it into the drive and it plays.
The biggest contributing factor, prirate DVDs, the studios are losing too much money, first VHS tapes, too easily copied, and too expensive to make, along comes DVDs, then writers, wthen the DVD copy.
The huge revenue loss to the pirates will dictate the speed of introduction of downloads, ipods and alternative methods, pay as you view. One of the controlling factors, the need to go optic for all telephony coms, the plans have been laying around for years and OFCOM have been the thorn in the side of BT introducing nationwide optics.
Then downloads, instant views, and lack of being able to copy, the intention is to avoid a storage facility, then no way of transferring to a sellable commodity.TVs with built in decoders etc etc...
just get your credit card out and pay for what ever service you prefer.
The huge revenue loss to the pirates will dictate the speed of introduction of downloads, ipods and alternative methods, pay as you view. One of the controlling factors, the need to go optic for all telephony coms, the plans have been laying around for years and OFCOM have been the thorn in the side of BT introducing nationwide optics.
Then downloads, instant views, and lack of being able to copy, the intention is to avoid a storage facility, then no way of transferring to a sellable commodity.TVs with built in decoders etc etc...
just get your credit card out and pay for what ever service you prefer.
alsoknownas
some bloke
Thing is though, HD is no longer a niche, because anybody who has bought a telly in the last two years (and any one who buys one from now on) will have been steered towards a HD model (whether they use it for a HD source or not).
The_Reverend_M
More bass, vicar?
Im' not sure the quality difference (both picture and technology) between DVD and Blu-Ray is big enough for most peeps to bother in the same way we all went "whooah!" at the upgrade from VHS to DVD ...
Yep, my nan went from a 14'' Matsui she must've had 20 years and bought a 32'' HD set, bless her.
I aint't paid much attention to the format war but it sucks if Blu Ray means all we get is Hollywood fodder.
jodal
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry but where do you get this from? I've never heard of this? Link?
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
I work for a DVD arm of a record label and we have plenty of titles that were filmed in HD but the cost of producing them in Blu-Ray is actually not economically viable unless they are likely to be made in HUGE numbers.
During the last conversation with operations, they told me there wasn't even a Blu-Ray manufacturer in Europe so we'd have to have all stock shipped from the US too.
jodal
Well-Known Member
Try DADC in Austria for BluRay production.
I'm sorry but I've have never heard of this 100,000 disc threshold. The reason why there isn't that many blu-ray indies out there at the moment is surely because HD dlt's aren't so readily available for smaller productions.
Reno
The In Kraut
Yep, my nan went from a 14'' Matsui she must've had 20 years and bought a 32'' HD set, bless her.
I aint't paid much attention to the format war but it sucks if Blu Ray means all we get is Hollywood fodder.
Exactly the same thing was the case when regular DVD's started out, all that was available were the most mainstream Hollywood films. I was an early adopter then and there really wasn't much choice available for the first couple of years. DVD's initially were also quite expensive. Now there are DVD's around of the most obscure films imaginable, stuff you'd never get to see in your local art house cinema or on VHS and at low prices and really good quality as well. I don't see why the same won't happen with Blu-ray when it becomes more commercially viable as more people adopt it. DVD has created a huge market for people like myself who are into more marginal films and they haven't gone away.
The default Internet forum attitude for many is to approach any new technology with a vague conspiracy theory paranoia, but studios would really shoot themselves in the foot by limiting themselves to a narrow range of titles in the long term. There are lots of smaller companies like Criterion or Anchor Bay who have a devoted customer base and who no doubt will continue into the high definition age, be it via Blu-ray for now or HD downloads in the future.
Yeah, I don't know why I didn't think of that (doh!). Still I think I'll be hanging on to a lot of my DVDs for some years yet.
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