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Are All Anti-Gay Rights Republicans In the Closet?

Shippou-Chan said:
once again...


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What do those red lines mean: the guy has AIDS now?
 
that was the guy who said that he only propositioned the cop as he was intimidated by the number of black men in the area

i was just wondering what he thought.. perhaps he thought being a police officer was an STD ...
 
T & P said:
In some States it is illegal to this day.

No it isn't. Sodomy laws in some states were struck down by a Federal ruling in 2003.

Tbh, it sounds to me as if this bloke's been done under much the same laws and by much the same means as British coppers used to arrest gay men for 'importuning,' which usually meant no more than trying to chat someone up. The law is still on the statute book, but thankfully the police largely stopped using it fifteen years ago.
 
TomUS said:
I think the deal is the cops get complaints about the pub bath being used as a place where people are having sex, or where their kids are exposed to that kind of thing, so the cops try to break it up.

I'd question why the parents are allowing their kids to hang around the "pub bath" tbh... :rolleyes:

"Soliciting" in toilets :rolleyes: usually only happens when being gay, queer etc is either outlawed or seen to be frightening and there's a lack of places for people to go otherwise...
 
jæd said:
"Soliciting" in toilets :rolleyes: usually only happens when being gay, queer etc is either outlawed or seen to be frightening and there's a lack of places for people to go otherwise...

Oh aye, it's a function of marginalisation alright.

So many aspects of 'gay culture' are. For example, the assumption that gay people are all sex-obsessed and don't have long-term, monogamous relationships comes straight out of the fact that gay people historically have had to seek company in the shadows, keep their relationships secret and there's never been any expectation of or support for people in relationships. From the same thing comes the association of gay men and public bogs: historically, they've been meeting places, and no more than that.

Problem is, in societies where homosexuality is marginalised and/or stigmatised (and even to a lesser extent where that's less true), people mistake cause and effect, and assume that the cultural traits gay people adopt are what they want to do, not a response to circumstances. They expect us to lead exactly the same sort of lives as heterosexuals, ignore the fact that many of the external factors conditioning straight peoples' behaviour don't apply, and then damn us all as moral degenerates when we don't live up to their norms.

Conservatives' attitudes to homosexuality are a grand exercise in blaming the victim - and it seems to me that they're much more prevalent on the other side of the pond than they now are here.
 
jæd said:
"Soliciting" in toilets :rolleyes: usually only happens when being gay, queer etc is either outlawed or seen to be frightening and there's a lack of places for people to go otherwise...

Maybe. I used to work in the city parks. In certain bathrooms, you were sure to come across some guy getting a blowjob from another guy.

One time, when I was walking out of the bathroom, there was a cop there. I said: how come you guys don't enforce the law about public sex in bathrooms?

He said: It's not a crime to be gay, you know.

I said, I know, but I wouldn't expect you to treat it any different if it was a woman giving the blowjob.

Working in the parks, you just didn't see much heterosexual sex in the public cans.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Working in the parks, you just didn't see much heterosexual sex in the public cans.

Maybe, just maybe, that's because heterosexual sex didn't have a long history of stigmatisation and the straight folk were happily getting together in clubs and going home for a shag - something which gay people, for a long time, couldn't really do.
 
jæd said:
I'd question why the parents are allowing their kids to hang around the "pub bath" tbh... :rolleyes:

"Soliciting" in toilets :rolleyes: usually only happens when being gay, queer etc is either outlawed or seen to be frightening and there's a lack of places for people to go otherwise...
Kids, alone or escorted, or anyone else shouldn't have to put up with people having sex in the public bathrooms they use.

One reason this whole thing is so great is that this bible waving christian family values anti gay rights senator is caught in a situarion that his policies created - causing gays to seek bizarre ways to get together.
 
TomUS said:
Kids, alone or escorted, or anyone else shouldn't have to put up with people having sex in the public bathrooms they use.

And how many times does this happen to you...? In the UK or US this has never happened to me... (Outside of Gay clubs + bars ;) ) And where it happens, I'd guess it would in toilets where its verly unlikly for small kids to wandering about it...

TomUS said:
One reason this whole thing is so great is that this bible waving christian family values anti gay rights senator is caught in a situarion that his policies created - causing gays to seek bizarre ways to get together.

Well, quite...
 
I don't think I've ever seen anyone cottaging. I know where it goes on and, since it doesn't interest me, I avoid those places. In most instances IME cottaging only impacts on those who want it to.
 
Seem to be a few perpetual hand washers when I go to my local tescos but it is hardly an issue.
It does annoy me though how the modern reaction to complaints seems to be to lock the men's room.
 
Roadkill said:
I don't think I've ever seen anyone cottaging. I know where it goes on and, since it doesn't interest me, I avoid those places. In most instances IME cottaging only impacts on those who want it to.

I saw lots of it when I worked in the parks. I saw some old guy blowing a twentysomething in the bathroom near the playground at Second Beach, for instance.
 
I seem to recall reading somewhere that Ted Heath was told he had to give it up sharpish when he became a privy councellor...

I would agree that there is some nuisance to cottaging, however it would appear to take up a lot of police time, particularly now in the states. Like Roadkill, I have never been aware of cottaging.

There are public lav scandals going on all over the place, like Fort Lauderdale. In that case there is a political storm from a homophobic mayor, and a police chief who says it's not a problem and there are no complaints.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
Its called hyperbole. :rolleyes:

But, don't worry, I don't expect brits to understand hyperbole.

Or all these extraordinary bathrooms all over the place either? The American obsession with cleanliness gone mad?
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
Its called hyperbole. :rolleyes:

But, don't worry, I don't expect brits to understand hyperbole.
I've heard of the Superbole, the Hyperbole must be even grander!
 
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