arctic death camps: fun for all the family

[Poi E]

Corrrect the same commies now call themselves capitalists or whatever.

But its the same people running things.

But its important for the press to run 10,000 articals whining about gitmo and none complaining about russian camps.

Clearly the rights and lives of terroists are way more important, than others.

The camps are no doubt dreadful, but criticism of the camps would still not change the way the US is acting. There is no principle of "set off" as regards bad things, you know.

 

[pbman]

looks like they were both different versions of the same shit in the first place to me.

No doubt, they should have let the tzar run things he was a hell of a lot nicer.

 

[pbman]

The camps are not doubt dreadful, but criticism of the camps would still not change the way the US is acting. .

Of course not, we are not in charge in russia.

Apperently you don't care what actually happens to people,you only care about what the us does.

 

[Poi E]

Apperently you don't care what actually happens to people,you only care about what the us does.

You used to be a nice person underneath all the lines your government taught you, but as things have gotten worse for your government you've gone down the road of perdition with them.

 

[pbman]

You used to be a nice person underneath all the lines your government taught you, but as things have gotten worse for your government you've gone down the road of perdition with them.

 

[peppery]

But its important for the press to run 10,000 articals whining about gitmo and none complaining about russian camps.

Clearly the rights and lives of terroists are way more important, than others.

Russia doesn't hold itself up to be a paragon of Human rights does it?

Do you know something about the detainees in Guantanamo bay that we don't since your'ee calling them terrorists and they haven't even had a fair trial yet? After all how many people have been released without charge from Camp X-ray so far? Were they all terrorists as well?

You really dont think do you you idiot.

 

[Sorry.]

No doubt

It's official - Capitalism and Communism are two different versions of the same shit!

 

[pbman]

It's official - Capitalism and Communism are two different versions of the same shit!

The main thing is that capitalist workers live much better, drive nicer cars and live in their own homes they own, and own lots of fun adult toys like speedboats and dirt bikes and such..........

 

[Rich Lyon]

Is there much difference, conceptually, between visiting a Gulag, and visiting the Tower of London? Is mediated schadenfreude somehow more acceptable when it is delivered by a dude in a Beefeater outfit, or when the Bad Stuff didn't happen to your grandfather's generation?

 

[pbman]

Russia doesn't hold itself up to be a paragon of Human rights does it?
.

So all we have to do is lower the bar for our beahviror and everything is cool then?

 

[pbman]

Is there much difference, conceptually, between visiting a Gulag, and visiting the Tower of London? Is mediated schadenfreude somehow more acceptable when it is delivered by a dude in a Beefeater outfit, or when the Bad Stuff didn't happen to your grandfather's generation?

Yes, many millions less, died in the tower.

But other than that not much.

I'm greatly surprised the commie loving press hasn't publisied this more myself.

 

[Sorry.]

The main thing is that capitalist workers live much better, drive nicer cars and live in their own homes they own, and own lots of fun adult toys like speedboats and dirt bikes and such..........

what, like the majority of capitalist workers living on less than $3 a day?

 

[pbman]

what, like the majority of capitalist workers living on less than $3 a day?

If they have a problem they should grab their guns and change things, to a proper constitional republic then.

Why don't they anyways?

The liberals must have dissarmed them all.

 

[Sorry.]

If they have a problem they should grab their guns and change things

Too right they should. Revolution comrade!

to a proper constitional republic then.

What about the one's already in a 'proper constitutional republic'? What about the ones getting bombed to shit by a 'proper constitutional republic'?

 

[pbman]

Too right they should. Revolution comrade!
?

it worked for us.

But people don't need to be commies, in order to revolt.

What about the one's already in a 'proper constitutional republic'?

They must have f-ed up the details of it somehow, it works fine for us.

What about the ones getting bombed to shit by a 'proper constitutional republic'?

They should quite pissing us off, by flying planes into our buildings.

Or starting and loosing wars in kuwait.

 

[Sorry.]

it worked for us.

But people don't need to be commies, in order to revolt.

But we've clearly got the best flags.

They must have f-ed up the details of it somehow, it works fine for us.

So saw the people of New Orleans left to die

They should quite pissing us off, by flying planes into our buildings.

Or starting and loosing wars in kuwait.

or pissing off the United Fruit Company ...

 

[pbman]

or pissing off the United Fruit Company ...

Go ahead and shoot the carpet baggers.

WE will just buy our fruit even cheaper, from whoever is in charge.

Thats capitalism.

 

[pbman]

But we've clearly got the best flags.
...

I don't think so.

 

[_pH_]

But its important for the press to run 10,000 articals whining about gitmo and none complaining about russian camps.

Do you think that's because the concensus is the Russian gulags were appalling (and even the Soviet Union probably thought so, hence the reason for keeping them secret), whereas the US insists that gitmo is somehow acceptable even though the concensus throughout the rest of the world is that it's not?

BTW:

embedded images must not be over 60k (otherwise the board grinds to a halt for those using dial-up connections).

And people would possibly give your views more credence if you gave up the tedious obsession with 'commies' in every post. Just a thought.......

 

[peppery]

So all we have to do is lower the bar for our beahviror and everything is cool then?

Is that what you'd like to see, I get the impression human rights don't mean much to you. After all it must make you incredibly uncomfortable seeing day after day abuses of human rights and international conventions by your forces around the world.? Whats the latest abuse, burning corpses.

 

[pbman]

Do you think that's because the concensus is the Russian gulags were appalling (and even the Soviet Union probably thought so, hence the reason for keeping them secret), whereas the US insists that gitmo is somehow acceptable even though the concensus throughout the rest of the world is that it's not?

BTW:


.......

Don't be silly.

Stalin didn't hide his gulogs.

He used the fear of them to keep people in line.

And people would possibly give your views more credence if you gave up the tedious obsession with 'commies' in every post. Just a thought

I doubt it, this is urban after all.

Its taken two years of hard work to be able to use commie in every post.

 

[Pickman's model]

er...

if stalin wasn't hiding his gulag, why were so many of the camps in northern siberia? i doubt it was for the clement weather - though it does get up to 19 C in summer, even on the coast of the east siberian sea.

 

[\\-(*o*)-//]

Doesn't last for long though. Had the chance to travel to Nizhnevartovsk a bit ago but didn't go. Would have been brilliant even in the winter.

 

[Pickman's model]

Doesn't last for long though. Had the chance to travel to Nizhnevartovsk a bit ago but didn't go. Would have been brilliant even in the winter.

more of a magadan fan myself...

or kolyma...

 

[\\-(*o*)-//]

Have you heard of Glas? They publish a lot of new and old Russian literature. One of them is a book called Women's View, and has a terrible account of the Soviet prison system. It is called Kolyma Streetcar.

 

[nino_savatte]

Looks like the same old shaft the people,live like a king communism, pretending to be capitalism to me.

You're fucking obsessed, you fascist prick.

 

[Ryazan]

Calm down...

 

[nino_savatte]

Calm down...

I told pbman that everytime I saw him referring to "commies" that I would hurl the word "fascist" in his direction. It's only fair under the circumstances.

 

[likesfish]

siberia makes a perfect killing machine just had hard work inadequate food and lousy clothes mother nature will doall the hard work for you pretty hard to escape from as well

 

[Ryazan]

I told pbman that everytime I saw him referring to "commies" that I would hurl the word "fascist" in his direction. It's only fair under the circumstances.

Fire away then.